Question for TB.net

Treasure Beach Forum: TB Runnin's: Question for TB.net
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Wint on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 12:42 pm: Edit Post

What's the reason/purpose for closing a topic?

I looked through the guidelines but I did not see anything about closing topics. I am just wondering if it's just by the request of any random poster or it's just because the webmaster feels they need to excersize their administrative power.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mnken on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 12:00 am: Edit Post

Let us use some common sense here. First, we are all 'random posters'. They obviously thought a topic was going the wrong way, and different than was the original post.
I feel the webmaster tries to use good judgement. This has nothing to do with 'exercising administrative power'. If that were the case Mr. Wint, YOUR post would not have been approved! Now that would have been exercising power!
One topic I am really getting tired of is the bashing of TBNet while all they are trying to do is provide a service for those of us who have an interest in TB. They are not perfect and they will be the first to admit that. I suggest you just start your own website and exercise your own administrative power. {edited by TBNet}


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TBNet on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 09:28 am: Edit Post

We typically close a thread when a topic has been discussed, hashed and rehashed, no new information is being given and may have the potential of being painful or hurtful to an innocent party.

As a reminder, there are two of us (Rebecca and Eric) who moderate this site as opposed to a single webmaster.

-TBNet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By MikeyMike on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 11:21 am: Edit Post

And a {edited by TBNEt} good job they do of moderating this site !!
BIG UP to Rebecca and Eric !!
ONE LOVE !!
Mike


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Wint on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 10:30 am: Edit Post

Thanks for answering TB.net.

{edited by TBNet}

I should have ignored your post, but I will oblige you and answer, I do own a website, and who was bashing who?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Observer on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:33 pm: Edit Post

Way to go Mr. Wint. Speak your mind and be free.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peyton on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 12:54 pm: Edit Post

Greetings,

I have visited Treasure Beach several times, but have not quite attained “frequent” status. I am aware of the “community” and some of them are aware of me, but I do not presume to include myself as a member of the community. I visit the treasurebeach.net web site very often and, sometimes, comment. Mostly, I use the site to assist in making the various decisions before planning a trip to Treasure Beach (or dream of being there).

I also enjoy and admire the fact that the TB.net web site has evolved into a community resource. It is used by many as a clearing house of information and a community “bulletin board”. I like to check in and see how my friends and acquaintances are doing. In times of emergency it has been a vital link for those interested in the wellbeing of Treasure Beach. The site has provided timely and accurate information during hurricanes and other calamities. TreasureBeach.net has remained “on the air” when many other Jamaican sources of information have failed. After the fact, the site has also functioned as a conduit for support and resources to heal the wounds and repair the damage.

Treasure Beach perches in a delicate balance between several opposing desires and concerns. For better or worse, some portion of the Treasure Beach economy is linked to visitors like me and the tourism industry. I am not certain of this, but I believe that the original intent of the web site was, solely, to attract visitors and encourage tourism to the Treasure Beach area. The community aspect of the web site has developed over time. Anyone posting a comment on the site should keep this in mind.

New, potential, visitors are entering the web site all the time. All they are trying to determine is whether Treasure Beach looks like a nice place to spend their next vacation. They are unaware of some of the contentious political and interpersonal relationships that exist. Any comment that might discourage their interest in visiting Treasure Beach is in jeopardy of being edited or excluded (including these). I understand that there are a few individuals who might consider discouraging tourists as a positive direction and that things were “better before”. All I can say to that is you have answered your own question as to why your comments may not be posted, exactly, as you wrote them or why some discussions are terminated.

I may be mistaken, and please correct me if I am, but I believe that treasurebeach.net is not an open, public, forum. It is a privately owned and operated concern primarily intended as a marketing tool for business people with investments in the Treasure Beach area. Any secondary usage of the site is by the good graces of those who manage the site and pay the bills. Frankly, I am consistently amazed by what is posted in the discussion areas. The dialogs can sometimes become adversarial, abusive and downright rude. Yet, I only know this because they are, in fact, posted. This demonstrates tremendous courage, on the part of the administrators and clients of this web site, to have the confidence that these discussions will only reinforce the, overall, positive nature of Treasure Beach and the community that calls it their home.

With all due respect,

Peyton Beals
Wrentham, MA


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TBNet on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 01:13 pm: Edit Post

Thanks for your thoughtful comments, Peyton. As a follow up, allow us to make a correction.

The site was originally intended for 3 purposes, in no particular order:
-A marketing/information site for tourism. (And not just for the 'big guys'. We intentionally keep our advertising rates low so anyone can place an ad)
-A place for Jamaicans/Treasure Beach-ites living abroad to keep connections with friends/family in the area
-A cyber location for those living in and around Treasure Beach to connect to the outside world and amongst themselves.

You are correct that in the beginning the first goal was the biggest represented on the site. We believe one reason for that was the low number of TB residents with internet connections.

We are very happy that the second two goals have become more prominent over our past ten years of operation. The addition of Dem Good Old Days, etc. have been a very welcome expansion.

Hope this helps everyone understand a bit more about the intended purposes of this site.

-TBNet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Wint on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 08:00 pm: Edit Post

Is this all caused by my question to TB.net (Rebecca & Eric)?


WOWZERS!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By juat asking on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 08:06 pm: Edit Post

Hi peyton what happen to freedom of speach?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Wint on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 08:44 am: Edit Post

As good as the intentions are of TB.net, freedom of speech don't necessarily work around these parts.

As another poster said this is "not an open, public, forum. It is a privately owned".(TB.net did not correct that poster on that statement so it holds true)

I don't want to make it seem like TB.net does no good for the development of TB. Its clear the work they do along with their friends and unofficial affliiates that benefits the area and the citizens.

When I critique anything it' not about what is happening in and around TB, it's simple the way, certain aspect of the discussion board is managed.

I learnt years ago, "what I don't have control over dont let it worry me", so i don't, but I surely will not be quiet about it.

That's just the way I live my life in "the land of the FREE and home of the brave".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By turey on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:00 am: Edit Post

Where is that Robert?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Wint on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:05 am: Edit Post

Where is what ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Puhleeze ... on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:28 pm: Edit Post

Robert, this is not a blog. This site is supported by advertisers, advertisers who do not wish it used for anyone to rant about anything they want and do all sorts of name-calling and say anything they wish, even if it is 100% untrue. If you wish to tell us where YOUR site on Treasure Beach is--and allow us to post absolutely anything on it, go for it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TBNet on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 03:20 pm: Edit Post

To follow up on a couple points....

Yes, this is a privately owned web site. We do offer it to the public at no cost to use as a place to exchange ideas but we also require a level of conduct outlined in the guidelines. Think of it as going to a neighborhood bar. You're free to talk to others but if you start harassing people, you get kicked out. (An inexact analogy to be sure, but one that illustrates the general point).

Secondly, our advertisers do not dictate what is and is not approved for posting here. Rebecca and Eric alone are the people who make those decisions.

Hope this provides some clarity on the subject.

-TBNet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By turey on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 03:08 pm: Edit Post

Where is this land that is occupied by the brave and the free?

Both qualities are independent of location and political standpoint.

Is it a mantra for encouragement or do some consider this statement fact?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By closeby on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:44 am: Edit Post

{edited by TBNet} Turey, I need to know that answer as well, good one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Wint on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 03:24 pm: Edit Post

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This is hilarious. I'm loving it. Why are you telling me it's not a blog???? Where did I say this was a blog????? Did I say I have a site on "Treaure Beach"????

"Reading and comprehending is fundamental"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Wint on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 03:34 pm: Edit Post

Do u all really want me to answer that?? I sense some sarcasm . {edited by TB.Net}

In the interest of all of our times, I will just say that "O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!" is the last line of the Star Spangled Banner. If anyone disagrees with that, all I can say to you is to take it up with Francis Scott Key. But dont go looking for an answer, you will be wasting your time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Wint on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 03:43 pm: Edit Post

Thanks for clearing up that mess about the "advertisers", cuz if that was indeed true, JAH know , mi woulda lose off TB.net big time.

Just goes to show folks dont know what they talking about.

Your analogy makes perfect sense TB.net, and I do agree with it. I am a firm believer in rules and regulations, that's why I have familairized myself with the guidelines and hence the reason for this post/question to TB.net.

I know I like to push the evenlope a bit and take things to the edge, and often times its rubs people the wrong way. But I have also learned from years of experience being on various discussion boards, to never take any thing personal and never get too emotional and take things to hear what people say.

I can dish so I can take it.

One Love everyone, have a great weekend.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TB.Net on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 02:05 pm: Edit Post

Okay folks, we are getting close to calling the bouncer in the bar so let's all just take a deep breath, think and print positive thoughts.