History of the Treasure Beach Names

Treasure Beach Forum: Dem Good ole Days : History of the Treasure Beach Names
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JohnD on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 10:30 am: Edit Post

There are many Surnames in Treasure Beach that all have a history that goes way back.

I am trying to trace them all back as far as I can.

These include Dillion/Deleon, Ebanks, Parchment, Moxam, Gale and Daly.

So far I have traced Parchment back to 1640 but need more information with the others.

This is a big historical undertaking so any information anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.

Don't worry, I'm not so interested in you or you kids, but from the 1940's and earlier.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By real jamaica on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 10:30 am: Edit Post

no need to trace my friends,these are all adopted names from the slave masters,who brought us to this island after the arawak indians died out from the intensive labor of the cane fields.blacks where bought to the island because they could survive the harsh work conditions.so please stop thinking of these names as ours.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 04:10 pm: Edit Post

real jamaica, you are wrong pal, not everybody got their names from slave masters, and everyone was not a slave or a slave master.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By real jamaica on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 11:16 am: Edit Post

why was the black bought to jamaica? i know a lot of jamaican are of light skinned ness,but that was because the british military officer mingles with the black female slaves.jamaica was a economical and military outpost for the british,females was not coming from europe to stay with the officers.only family allowed was the governor general.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By odyssey on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 05:36 pm: Edit Post

How come I don't hear the people of East Indian ancestry whine and complain about slavery?they were brought in as indentured servants[slaves]


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By turey on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 09:36 am: Edit Post

Life is never simple.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/abolition/africans_in_art_gallery_07.shtml


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Earl on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 05:23 pm: Edit Post

JohnD, there is a significant body of information that suggests that many of the Treasure Beach surnames came from Scottish settlers who arrived, not via plantation slavery. One suggestion is that many of them 'stumbled' upon this section of the island by way of a shipwreck in the mid-19th century.

That has been discussed at length elsewhere on this website in the past.

That is not to say that there weren't Scottish slave owners and operators of plantations during the era of slavery - there certainly were many of those! There just seems to be something unique about the relatively large concentration of whites and their mixed-race descendants in this small part of the island; a part of the island that would not have had much scope for sugar cultivation, and it just happens that many of these surnames seem to be Sottish in origin.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wahalla on Wednesday, April 15, 2015 - 01:20 pm: Edit Post

To add further to Earl's comment. (though I prefer the theory that it was a German ship on the way to Nicaragua with menonites, Brtethens or Moravian cultists) In the late 19th Century there was an attempt to start a farming vegetables for the US market. I believe this was by revivalist order A number of Scottish workers were imported. the business failed the workers remained as tehre was no money to exphilate them back to Glasgow!

As I write this something else occurs to me that is pure conkecture. In addition it should be highlighted that Col Guthrie of the Sutherland Regiment who signed the Treaty with Cudjoe in the hills to the North, troops came from North East Scotland. I expect that rather than returning to a dour existence in the damp dank areas round Dunrobin Castle in an era without central heating the troops would have deserted and gone to a remote area to blend in away from authorities. Part of the Treaty was Guthrie and his troops remained in place as a buffer...Many of them were from fishing communities back in scotland (Sutherland sounds of viking origin for southland) thus this may be worth investigating further.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Wednesday, April 15, 2015 - 06:25 pm: Edit Post

The Scottish connection was there before the late 19th century.