i was thinking the other day and this was the result, perhaps the community of treasure beach and its environs should consider properly naming and erecting unique street signs in the area,and even erecting welcome signs to each neighborhood,this would also help to identify where the boundary for each neighborhood begins, this would be helpful for the local visitors and tourists alike,we tend to remember names when we visit places.


so here are some suggestions......

1) frenchman drive
2) calabash street
3) billys bay ave
4) station hill road
5) great bay pothole street
6) ft.charles road
7) bluntas donkey track road.
8) sandybank ln
9) sandy bank main road
10) joe bol lane, literally
11) big groung highway
12) old warf drive
13) lewistown freeway.

including many side streets in olde-warf that could be named in honor of past residence of treasure beach, we can show that we care about where we live by doing these small but important things,....

I agree with the idea- I am sure they will be easy to paint on a piece of board

I like this....creative......brought smiles to my face as i remember my beloved community

please exclude Great Bay!!! if u cant find a better name to call it.

HI MARLON,
YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA BUT, THE NUMBER (5) AND (7) WAS A BIT HURTFULL.(Please be nice.)
I KNOW THE ROADS ARE IN VERY BAD CONDITIONS BUT,IT'S NOT THE RESIDENCES FAULT.
LET US PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT IS DUE.

Speaking about Lanes and Avenues....Does anyone know (where in TB) Ka-Ka Corner is ? And what about Crab Catcher's Hole ,Whatussi Corner and Rumbumbo Lane ?

i dont agree the way that u want to name great bay it is not because of the people give the blame to the governnebt who is using the money on themselves and take out bluntas donkey track road.

some of the names were just for humor, not to be taken literally, but i really think naming the roads the streets and neighborhood should be seriously considered ..... don't you!!!!!

I dont think Great Bay should be changed,plus Great Bay is always the forgotten place.

HI MARLON, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA BUT PLEASE CHANGE 5 AND 7. AND THINK ABOUT A NAME FOR THE CROSSING BETWEEN GREAT BAY AND CALABASH BAY, I THINK THAT CROSSING SHOULD BE NAME AFTER MR. HONEYGHAN, HE WAS A VERY GOOD GENTLEMAN IN TREASURE BEACH, I REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN TREASURE BEACH WHO HAD A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND HE WAS LOVED AND RESPECT BY MANY FOLKS THERE AND AFTER HE HAD PASSED AWAY HIS SON TOOK UP HIS JOB WHICH WAS WONDERFUL,COME ON! IN THE DAYS GONE BY HE WAS OUR ONLY TRANSPORTATION AT CHRISTMAS TIME TO TAKE US TO BLACK RIVER FOR GRAND MARKET.
CONTINUE TO REST IN PEACE OLD D. WE STILL REMEMBER YOU.

This is not a project just for the people living in and around Treasure Beach to do. This needs to be brought up in one of the meetings you all attend and if an invitation is sent out to the person/MP for your communities to sit with you all to discuss this and other projects that would be of benefit to everyone I think that's how it should be presented.
Marlon I'm on your side (good thinking) but, like one person mentioned before #5 and #7 on your list was a bit harsh.
Sign Post would have to be errected so as not to block the view of drivers and even where they are placed would come into play seeing some may have to be placed on private property.
I do not think anyone would object where that is concerned but, at the same time they have to give their permission.
REALLY SOMETHING GOOD TO THINK ABOUT.

More offical than a piece of board, more from concrete because of the hurricane each year.

Is anyone really having a hard time getting around in the TB area?
S.

Everyone comes to TB and loves it, then they want to change it. What's up with that?

This is a great idea. I think the strip from Calabash Bay to the corner where the coffee shop is should be called the "Reggae Strip" or the "walk about strip". Any other suggestions?

I also feel that signs should be errected saying "you are not entering Great Bay" Calabash Bay, Frenchman's Bay, Billy's Bay and Fort Charles Bay This will give our visitors an idea of where they are going.

On top of all of this, when we have a power cut, JPS always asks to give them directions which includes the name of a street.

Thanks for pointing that out "VISITOR TO YOUR ISLAND". I was excited about the idea until i saw the names for Bluntas and Great Bay. It hurt my feelings because if you look at all the other names they all sound nice. I have family and friends living in both places. So please do better than that MARLON!

Thanks.

james lane in sandy bank

Although this project sounds nice, I think the funds that would have to be allocated to such a project may be better spent on a more needed project that will improve the quality of life and the further uplifting of the TB community(e.g. a public library, mobile medical clinic, community center for the children of the area,etc.) As stated above I don't think people have extreme difficulty traveling in Treasure Beach. The government needs to properly complete the canal to alleviate the flooding before trying to take on any additional such projects which may take away funds and focus on the more important. Just my five cents.

ameliorate
#5 & #7, for bluntas how about bluntaswell road, and for great bay, lets say great bluff blvd. so no more controversy we can get on with actually accomplishing this proposal.

I tend to agree with 'hooked on TB' ... if there is going to be money raised for something, wouldn't it be better spent on a needed community service? There are a lot of things needed in TB, but I don't think street signs are that important just now (if at all). People get around the area with no trouble. For newcomers and visitors, it might be a little surprising at first to have so few named streets, but everyone gets used to it and travels the area just fine. Why fix what isn't broken?

(And, too, calling quiet, local roads by names such as 'boulevard' and 'freeway' may be meant as a joke, but comes off condescending rather than funny. If the streets are going to be named, it should be done seriously, not tongue in cheek.)

I'll assume that Button Bay wants the sign to actually say "You are NOW entering..." Funny typo.

Does anyone really blame the people of an area for the poor condition of the road? Doesn't it reflect more on their MP for allowing the condition of the road to deteriorate so much?

I'm sorry "Reggae Strip" would be a poor choice. It connotes Mobay or Ocho Rios 'Hip Strip' and has no bearing or pertinance to Treasure Beach. I think that name is a little 'common' and is obviously to appeal to tourists. I think the name should reflect an upstanding citizen, (past or present) or something that is unique to this area. Maybe something to honor the fishermen who have been such a huge part of our lives down here, and many of whom have lost their own lives.

There is one sideroad between TB and Billy Bay. It is the "Love Lane".
A true name for the road. Great people are living at that lane.

I think Button Bay have the best idea so far but, forget about the this and that "strip" just stick to the other half of the posting. "Now entering Great Bay, Sandy Bank, Clabash Bay,etc,etc,etc. If there are little sideroads leading to private property then thats up to the owners to put their signs up on their properties. WHAT COULD BE MORE SIMPLE THAN THAT.

Another way is just find your way by asking questions from the friendly people of TB.

I love these names... I really think we should give it a try. Further more giving the area names like these will allow the visitors to ask questions and we in turn can give them the funny history (for those who has a sense of humor) about how they got there names. Often times when I was in the tourist industry they would asked me how TB got its name so this will give them a bit more info on TB.

That’s just my two cents.

I agree with Hooked on TB and girlgriot: there are better ways to spend time, attention, and money in TB. How hard is it go get around in TB? Someone can always direct the lost. Why destroy the rural feel of the place with signs? What next? I'd rather see an effort made to recycle all the trash that's tossed away or burned. Not pleasant to vacation in TB and now and then be subjected to the smoke (heaven knows what's in that stuff) of burning trash (all sorts of stuff, including plastics). Such a beautiful area, so little thought given to recycling, keeping the air and roadsides clean, etc. Road cleanup - recycling centers: surely there's something that can be done in that department? Street signs are window dressing. More fun to let TV visitors figure out where they are. One of the charms of TB is the way the little villages all blend together. One big happy family, right?

A big part of the charm of this area is it's countrified uniqueness. There are no street signs or billboards competing with nature. Just a quaint fishing village that moves to its own beat, oblivious to the ever threatening encroachment of crass commercialism.
I say a loud no to this idea. In other words, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I echo the sentiment of those who've pointed out that people seem to get around just fine.

there is a lane in great bay that should be name familyavenue the lane right in front of judies shop where the ford parchment powell and so on people live. good place nice people it was like just yesterday i was there with them

Why would you want to change one of the unique features of TB...This adds to the mystique and unforgettable memory of our South Coast Gem...we should not wish to mimic others. It's part of the 'specialness' of our Treasure - leave well alone!

Ithink the idea is a great one Marlon. We do need to give the district there respective names with arrows pointing in their directions... As for those who took what u said so serious tell them to get a little more humourous and not being so uptight...

Right on, Ballas Well Massive and one man. Leave a good thing alone. Less is more.

All these roads have names already so nothing is changing we're just going to ameliorate the community, how about you can call the police and tell them on what street you are or the ambulance or the fire brigade, or jps or any other utility company, by putting up the names of the roads on signs, that's called to ameliorate, how dose that take away from the community, i would like to see the roads change from POTHOLE infested to a smooth surface to drive on, now thats change i want to see they have been horrible for well over a decade.

My favourite is Cobweb Lane...the dirt road that goes through Old Wharf to Great Bay. Isn't that a great name?

I think the people of each district should get the chance to conclude on the name they want to put up in their community as it is going to be in their surrounding. Rather than people making unfit names that will only cause disturbing words being thrown, over some thing that is so simple and at the same so uplifting for the surrounding areas.

Marlon, I agree that the pothole situation should be improved and as I understand there has been some inroads made in that area, postings from last year indicate roads were being fixed. Roads that continue to need fixing, lets request that funds be used to fix them rather than name them, substance over aesthetics. I'm sure that emergency responders will continue to find their way as they have for decades. I have visited charming small towns in the US that to this day don't have street name signs and traffic lights. Treasure Beach should be true to itself and not attempt to mimic anywhere else. One persons Amelioration may be the beginning of anothers Destruction. This planet has existed for millions of years and we have ameliorated it to the point of destruction in the short span of 200 plus years. The idea that seriously needed funds would be wasted on Sports Park with 500 capacity parking and street signs when TB is so much in need of more vital services is unbelievable. Treasure Beach lacks its own: fire brigade, hospital or clinic, library, proper waste disposal(solid and sewage),a community facility for young people and so much more.

When you have to call the Police/Ambulance/Fire all they have to do is make sure they get the best direction from the person who called them in the first place then, when they get in the area just ask if this is the right way to so and so. There are so many little businesses along the way that are familar with everyone living in the district.
If your name is " Tony Little" but you have a nick name "BULLA" that every one calls you by
please mention that name to the department also when you call for your emergengy.
People call people by their Nick Name more than their real name and that could help tremendiously.

I was there when my dad died and for direction I told the Funeral Home where I lived but, to please ask for BLA-BLA-BLA when they got down into Frenchman and in no time they where at my door.
JUST ASK THE PERSON YOU GET ON THE PHONE WHEN YOU MAKE THAT EMERGENCY CALL TO PLEASE DO THIS AND BINGO IT WORKS EVERYTIME>

Yes I think that would be a brilliant thing to do, as Treasure Beach should be known with places being coded, lets say as it is a well known tourist’s destination we should be a bit more modernised by using the coding Ave's, St. and so on that would be great!!!. Development, Development.

I have to say, I'm not much of a fan of 'development, development' when it comes in the form on unnecessary changes. I really don't see the point in the street signs. We want Treasure Beach to look like small town America? Anytown, USA? Why? The communities of the south coast are doing just fine without the street signs ... but could be doing so much better with fixed roads, better storm drainage, a lending library, a fully-staffed clinic ... things that would make a real difference in the lives of the people. I don't think street signs represent a quality of life improvement.

Tone, I agree with you about what you have emphasized regarding that Treasure Beach would do great with the facilities you have mentioned . Don’t you think it is for each and everyone to give their opinions on what has been published on the message board on naming the STREETS in Treasure beach rather than concluding the word “FAN” about an opinion that does make sense. If you don’t see the need for the opinion I had contributed , well I am sorry that I have offended you I was only giving my opinion on the matter published. My apology.

I was waiting at Hopewell the other day and I saw a vehicle drive up and there were two people who were obvious vistors to the area, they had passed the Hopewell SIGN and looking at a map. I watched them for a while and they seemed puzzled. I went to them and asked if I could help them. Their reply was, "we are looking for the road to Treasure Beach". It is true that both roads do lead to Treasure Beach. One through Williamsfield and the other turning right at Hopewell and through to Fort Charles Bay, Billy's Bay, Frenchman's Bay, Calabash Bay and then to Great Bay. The coast road is not on a map. It so happened that these people were going to some place in Treasure Beach to stay as two days later I saw them passing by.

Most tourists come from the Montego Bay or Negril area through Black River and the signs from Black River to Treasure Beach are non existant.In fact, coming from Montego Bay, there are NO signs saying to Black River or Treasure Beach. There is one small sign saying to the South Coast. When you get to Ferris is when you see some kind of a sign. Going through Black River is tricky and there are again no signs. We cannot look at it from a "local" viewpoint. We have to look at it from the veiwpoint of a tourist, if we intend to encourage tourism. We cannot depend on other people to do the work for us. While most locals are very helpful, there are some persons who think it is a huge joke to direct people in the wrong direction.

I also agree with Tone. But all of this takes money and we have to earn it.

Pass by Commuter, I wasn't at all offended by your post. I simply said that I'm not in favor of development without careful thought and consideration. I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions, and I was stating mine.

Buttonbay, I agree that we have to remember that tourists visit the area, but I am wary about the call to 'think of the tourists' that I see in posts here so often. Yes, of course we should think of the tourists, but I worry that letting an interest in tourism have more influence on our decisions than the needs of local people will eventually lead to TB turning into another Negril, MoBay or Ocho Rios.

Amen, Tone. Although there aren't signs to TB, people do find it. Not only do they find it they keep going back to TB. Most visitors make arrangements for a hired car via someone in TB and the drivers surely know the way since they are residents of TB.

The next group of visitors, use public transport in the form of Route Taxis and again there is no problem in finding TB.

The last group which is small, drive into TB. I happen to be in this group. Most foreign visitors don't rent vehicles because they are fearful of driving in JA(road conditions, right side steering, high cost etc). Overall, the type of visitor who goes to TB enjoys being "Off the Beaten Path", and will go with the flow and enjoy seeing the beautiful surrounding areas and speaking with locals while finding their way into TB. I know I sure have. I drive around the entire South Coast with a map, friendly smile, asking how to get to the next town and I have always found people to be courteous and helpful. Each day when I return to TB after exploring the South Coast, I think warmly about the folks that helped me along the way and the wonderful experiences I've had.
Anyone needing direction contact Rebecca, she provides excellent directions with landmarks and advice that will help you find your way!!!!

Hey Marlon, how about naming Lewis Town road CADALAX DRIVE?????????????????

Or maybe POTHOLE AVE Maybe even Swimming Pool Road

Nahhhh, that wouldnt be too nice.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH U ABOUT THE POTHOLE THING, OR SWIMMING POOL. THERE'S SO MANY LOVING FOLKS LIVING THERE THEY DONT DESERVE THEIR STREET TO BE NAMED WITH THOSE NAMES. DONT IT?

I think this post has got somewhat out of hand!
I think we should focus on improving the comunity in the many ways it needs.
Signs are not really a priority in the grand scheme of things they are in fact rather materialistic if you consider what is really needed in the area.
I find the idea of putting signs like the suggested everywhere a bit vulgar and uneccesary in a commercial sence.it is insulting that people suggest making it like a development site in america with all those names and make it like a home from home for tourists, what about the people that live here?People can go to big resorts for that vibe , tb is a different kinda place,
It would be soo sad to see such changes in tb as it would ruin the quaintness of tb and make it like soo many other places when it is in fact unique and very special.
I do wonder why the goverment dont erect signs at the major roads though.
if folks want to make their own little signs painted that would be quite pretty and quaint, and their choice but its not really a focus.
Lets focus on the things really needed in TB like litteracy classes, waste disposal, medical clinic etc etc etc ....
I Love tb the way it is

The only place we really need signs in Treasure Beach is on the beaches warning swimmers about our dangerous south coast rip tides. This should be a top priority before naming streets.

The proper placement of appropriate signs on swimming will most likely save some lives as time passes.

Maybe when we're making these signs some street signs could be made and erected.

Could somebody post the procedure for naming a road and the number of meetings, forms and letters that have to be passed to get a sign post permitted? Or can they be planted freely by community action? If safe and secure natch.

I agree with buttonbay:
a sign at Hopewell, indicating the Fort Charles Road as one of the most scenic roads into Treasure Beach is overdue..... and:... it is shorter, too...

This seems to have changed from a half-serious half-funny thread about the roads of TB into personal attacks. Therefore, we're going to close it.

-TBNet