HAPPY-THANKSGIVING DAY

Treasure Beach Forum: TB Runnin's: HAPPY-THANKSGIVING DAY
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thanks on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 08:58 am: Edit Post

Happy thanks giving Treasure Beach and all of Jamaica.
One Love.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Trina B on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:05 pm: Edit Post

We do not celebrate Thankgiving in Jamaica, again that is an American tradition. We do celebrate Harvest in church though. Thanks anyway.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wishbone on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 06:52 pm: Edit Post

Trina, I think its more accurate to say YOU don't celebrate Thanksgiving. There are some of us who do.

If it don't apply to you, leave it for those to whom it does...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TB2 on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 09:45 pm: Edit Post

I am with you Trina B, Thanksgiving is an American tradition. (Are there Pilgrims and or Native Americans in Jamaica?). But it doesn't hurt to wish others well. Gobble, Gobble.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Trina B on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:11 pm: Edit Post

Wishbone, I did say thanks anyway, and yes we do give thanks, which is celebrated as Harvest. It does apply to me and all Jamaican when in Jamaica, however if we are in the United States, we do part take, I did, but I would not call my relatives there in Jamaica and wish them a happy Thanksgiving, they would probably respond, "with whats that?, or "no, happy Thanksgiving to you", all in my family are well traveled, so they have heard of Thanksgiving. Answer this for me Wishbone, if you had never in your life visited America, and on the 23, or 24, of November(Thursday of course) of each year, would you be preparing for Thanksgiving, the answer to that is no, so there, it does apply to me, even though I have been living here in America for the pass 20 or so years. Christmas & New Year is the same however. Thanks TB2 for the imput. I guess when the Pilgrims and the Native Americans, arrive we might part take, and thats not including the Arawarks indians either.
Thank you all.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jan on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 03:03 pm: Edit Post

Thanksgiving is indeed an American tradition which means absolutely nothing to me a Jamaican born and bred. I have relatives living in the States who celebrate it because that is where they've made their home.It is not one of our national holidays, whereas it is in America.I didn't think Trina B was being rude so why the touchy response, was it really necessary?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By thanks on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 08:41 pm: Edit Post

You all need to be quiet and give thanks whenever and wherever.If you thought about your blessings you would'nt care less which or whoes holiday it is.Thank the lord for health and strength.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By yardy on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 08:26 pm: Edit Post

Amen!! I am a jamaican born and bred living in the states and I do celebtate thansgiving. My thansgiving dinner includes curried goat,oxtail,and of course turkey with all the trimmings. And to wash it down I have a early glass of sorrel. Lets give thanks hah!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Trina B on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 09:41 am: Edit Post

Thanks, now it has gotten to the point where, a person can get really rude. Being a Jamaican born and bred, if you are, you as well would have noticed that we Jamaicans are a God fairing nation, and we take religion seriously. No one is disregarding their blessings here. If you read carefully what was written then you would have realized that you are arguing senselessly. I will however repeat myself. We give thanks in a different way, by celebrating Harvest, and if you notice we as a nation count our blessings every day. We do not set a side a specific day in which to give God thanks. How many here in america actually take that day as a special day to give thanks for all that the almighty has done for them. Mainly it is a day set aside to pig out, with regards as to whether or not our fellow humanbeing eats or not. Dont make this out to be an argument, it was not intended to be one. I simple made a correction, but still thank you for your gesture, because you might not have known better.

Thank again everyone!, and Thanks Jan for your words of defense.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tone on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 03:11 pm: Edit Post

Don't want to add to the fuss ... but "TB2" asked if there were Native Americans in JA ... well, that is what we call the Taino, my friends. There were plenty of Indians here in JA before all the rest of us got here.
Tone


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tell me more on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 06:05 pm: Edit Post

Taino Indians and Native Americans are one and the same? Interesting.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TB2 on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 10:21 pm: Edit Post

Thanks Tone for the History Lesson, but based on my research Taino Indians or The Caribbean Natives, lived in Jamaica, Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands and DR. I spoke of the Native American or American Indians that celebrated Thanksgiving with the Pilgrims when they first came to America. Bear in mind that Caribeean History is different from US History. Appreciate your input.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tone on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 11:38 am: Edit Post

This is hardly a point to argue over, but to further clarify:

My message was not to imply that the Taino lived in what is now the United States, simply to clarify that Indians lived on this island before any of the rest of us. To my view the Caribbean is part of the 'the Americas' (North, Central and South), which *would* make the Taino "Native Americans."

Of course the Taino have nothing whatsoever to do with Thanksgiving, and I did not imply that they did, simply mentioned that in fact there were Indians in Jamaica, since the earlier post seemed to imply that there weren't.

No need to tell me that Caribbean history is different from US history ... nor to dismiss my comments with a snide 'appreciate your input.'

Take a breath, people, before biting off heads.
T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Justice on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 07:55 pm: Edit Post


Do Native Americans that live in the USA celebrate Thanksgiving?

I refer to the individuals that respect "All My
Relations"...Humans, Animals, Plants, Minerals and are decended from individuals living in N America
pre 1492.

BTW Parotee and the Great Pedro Bluff have been
mentioned as the last refuge of the Taino.

The first Creole or Jamaican born offspring of Taino mothers (most likely) and Celto/Iberian/
Moorish/Jewish fathers would probably have been
at the time of Columbus' stranding for a year in the St Anns Bay area. Date again students?

I do not know of any vow or restraint of celibacy that existed among the crew!?

The first Afro/Taino etc ancestors probably a little later. Unless there was/were Africans on board. Date students?

Giving Thanks...thats another chapter...

All My Relations, Justice.










Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Justice on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 08:45 am: Edit Post

And Tone, It is likely that there were trade and family networks between the Tainos and their N, S and Central American neighbours.

Early sailors were often surprised to see huge Taino canoes being paddled far out at sea.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By hooked on TB on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 09:10 pm: Edit Post

Justice, Well said!
One love


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Justice on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 11:21 am: Edit Post


Well hoTB, silence reigns.....

Squirmingly, Justice.

PS. And off course! if Moors where aboard the stranded ships, they would have been most likely the first Africans along with their crewmates to add to the local Taino gene pool.