Concerning New Trend

Treasure Beach Forum: TB Runnin's: Concerning New Trend
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Concerned on Friday, April 17, 2015 - 11:37 pm: Edit Post

I have tried to post but it didn't go through so will try again.

I am concerned about a new type of tourism in our village where people are being invited to come to trip on mushrooms as the draw for coming because in Jamaica it is legal and respected?!

(quoting the site mycomeditations.com) "Welcome to Myco-Meditations!

Located in quiet Treasure Beach, where the use of psilocybin, ayahuasca and all ethnobotanicals are unregulated and highly respected."

Excuse me dear residents, anyone ever see anyone use ayahuasca? Know what that is? We all know them sell junju tea to tourist in Negril but does anyone highly respect this or do we say it is mad if anything? Is this what we want people doing on our beaches??

The "package" promises TWO trips in one week!

We need more tourists but do we need this?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Concerned Too on Saturday, April 18, 2015 - 09:40 pm: Edit Post

GREAT way to increase tourism, ayahuasca has caused HUGE increase in Peru, but at what cost-

"...Pilgrims like Nolan are flocking to the Amazon in search of ayahuasca, either to expand their spiritual horizons or to cure alcoholism, depression, and even cancer, but what many of them find is a nightmare. Still, the airport in Iquitos is buzzing with ayahuasca tourism. Vans from shamanic lodges pick up psychedelic pilgrims from around the world, while taxi drivers peddle access to Indian medicine men. "It reminds me of how they sell cocaine and marijuana in Amsterdam," one local said. "Here, it's shamans and ayahuasca."

Read more: http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/the-dark-side-of-ayahuasca-20130215#ixzz3Xid YF2jq
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Oh Please NOT in our Treasure Beach!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aso on Saturday, April 18, 2015 - 08:51 am: Edit Post

They better watch out sometimes the hallucinations continue forever

http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/a-trip-that-doesnt-end

regardless, this doesn 't fit in to a sustainable
model of tourism Treasure Beach is trying to develop.



What is scary to me is the possibility of these strung out delusional hallucinating people going crazy and hurting someone. I've seen overdose of ganja brownies already which is mild but this could be a frightening scene.

Once again people just because you love Treasure Beach and you have a hobby doesn't mean the two can combine and you can live here making money doing it, especially if your hobby is taking drugs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Concerned on Sunday, April 19, 2015 - 04:55 pm: Edit Post

KEEP IT IN NEGRIL!

https://vimeo.com/119297124


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 07:35 am: Edit Post

This is not to mention that I am currently speaking with several Jamaican investors who see Tranquility Bay bldg as an ideal place for a sustainability resort with gourmet mushrooms, using my mushroom growing expertise, as a a main component. There is definitely a way here to bring in many respectable tourists and their respectable dollars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 07:31 am: Edit Post

If you're interested in what we are doing at Myco-Meditations, you are welcome to just ask. I can assure you that this is part of something absolutely sustainable and legitimate. I am a gourmet mushroom cultivator in the United States and have been a close friend of the Genus family for more than ten years.

I am part of a group that is working with psilocybin particularly as a therapeutic agent. Unfortunately before it was used as a recreational tool, it was for more than 3000 years used as a part of spiritual practices. Being a serotonin replicator, it is a harmless molecule and under proper supervision provides enormous physiological and psychological relief.

We have no intention and no design to 'turn people loose' on drugs, and I'm quite certain that historical records will prove overwhelmingly that alcohol has a much higher risk of long term and short term life threatening damage.

There is ongoing research at some of the top Universities in the United States after much political struggle regarding these sacred plants, for the treatment of PTSD, various addictions such as alcoholism, tobacco and narcotic addiction, pornography, gambling, terminal cancers,and classical mystic experiences.

It would be both socially and economically wise for Jamaica to take advantage of the fact that Michael Manley did not sign the 1974 United Nations Psychoactive non-proliferation agreement. There is much good that can be done with these tools under proper supervision and other countries are already starting to benefit from these loopholes. This retreat concept specifically focusing on sacred mushrooms is the first of its kind in the world.

If you have thoroughly toured the site, you will realize that guest must complete an application and a screening. This is an opportunity to service a prestigous clientelle with a truly unique experience.

I do understand your initial reaction, as society has demonized these plants in an effort to stomp our indigenous beliefs, but I can assure you again, that our work is guided by experienced practitioners in a ceremonial manner and that as a long time visitor and lover of Treasure Beach, it is my hope to only improve the quality of the area in a manner in line with Jamaican One Love.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 08:30 am: Edit Post

I hope the people of TB and the Government do not allow themselves to accept this proposal, this I believe would be the beginning of the end for TB.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Still concerned on Friday, May 01, 2015 - 08:56 pm: Edit Post

Crazy, in a nutshell.

Eric, a question, what professional training do you have in use of these hallucinogens? What medical knowledge or experience do you have in controlling a bad trip?

Who are your "experienced practitioners" and what does that mean other than you've done alot of mushroom tripping??

Who in the community beside the Genus family or the owners of Tranquility Bay Facility may make something off this scheme?

Finally, how long did it take, and what job category did you declare to get a work permit for this?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom and Jeanie on Friday, May 01, 2015 - 06:58 pm: Edit Post

Myco-meditations may be a legitimate organization. However,although I believe psilocybin may be beneficial when use is supervised I fear that Treasure Beach would become known as the place to go to do psilocybin as it is accepted there. Tourist who cannot afford myco-meditations will be buying psilocybin off the street and doing it in the moderately priced guest houses. I am a retired prison psychologist and know many inmates who ended up commiting serious crimes while on unsupervised hallucinogenic drugs. When word gets out it will hurt tourism. Families will be hesitant to come knowing the people next door could be using psilocybin.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric on Friday, May 01, 2015 - 12:42 pm: Edit Post

Archie, you should definitely be concerned about the future of TB. But not by me. It is a wonderful place that I myself can guarantee you that I will work very hard to bring only positive, respectful tourism to the area.

I am not a hippie or a joker. I am a student of His Majesty, and IandI know that no plant upon God's blessed earth is to be discriminated against and that these are powerful tools for healing.

Yes, there is a need for eduction here, as misuse, like what goes on in Negril creates negative stereotypes and misconceptions, not to mention the negative experiences by mushroom eaters.

Are you aware that the Taino and Arawak had a known history of working with Acacia as an ayahuasca DMT analogue? Thousands of years of safe history and use. The same goes with mushrooms. They are physiologically harmless. Dosage and setting are the determining factors. We have performed several ceremonies already and there have been zero complications or disturbances.

You should be far more concerned with what the chemical farmers are doing to your health and the tourism than with the positive research based work that we will be doing.

If nothing else, see that we are working with the Genus family, with whom I have been close friends for over a decade. They are completely respectable, established locals who are my dear friends who I desire only to assist through my legitimate research based work.

I do understand your concerns, but I would like to have a discussion rather than finger pointing. There truly is much benefit that could come to the area and to the visitors through a program such as the one we are piloting.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A different Eric on Saturday, May 02, 2015 - 10:48 am: Edit Post

Hear, hear, Eric!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Yet Another Eric on Saturday, May 02, 2015 - 09:05 pm: Edit Post

I checked out their website, and frankly they seem pretty harmless. If some tourists or locals want to eat mushrooms now and then, I doubt they will create any problems at all in Treasure Beach. A simple google search will show that mushrooms and weed are far less likely to cause violence or crime of any sort, compared to the alcohol and cocaine abuse that is epidemic throughout the country.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 01:59 pm: Edit Post

Different Eric, I suggest you think about this proposal before you say hear,hear.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tafari on Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 10:35 pm: Edit Post

Many of us are concerned about chemicals farmers are using. Many of us go organic and go away when our next door neighbors are spraying as our talking falls on deaf ears about the harm they are doing.

However, Tom and Jeanie hit the nail on the head. Let us suppose Mycomeditations and you are legitimate, though based upon the fact that the very wording on the title page of your website has changed SINCE this thread started, and you neglected to answer any of the questions under "still concerned" post things no look so righty.

But Tom and Jeanie said it all. You charging $1200 US and more all inclusive. So your respectable friends and you making all that money and locals only selling a lunch and two beer to your guest all week- nah go work. Soon everyone start grow the junju and some people get poison off. People start come to Treasure Beach looking mushroom to trip on. If you have success it will lead to failure, others will copy with out your "expertise" in need of a dollar, surely your friends have explained the runnings to you.

Mad tourist start swim straight outta sea, nah turn back (seen this in Negril more than once my brother) took mushroom and lose him head.

Working with the Genus family to assist through your legitimate researched based work??!! Please answer our safety concerns about your qualifications and governmental approval

- (is your work permit for tour guide or hallucination facilitator??!!)

Also, forgive my ignorance as a Rasta, I never know say junju a plant. I think was something that reproduce by spores not seed, generally growing on dead wood and cow dung. Correct me please. Is like Jah create all herb bearing seed for I and I use but we don't feel like all natural product is for consumption, seen?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Saturday, May 02, 2015 - 10:59 am: Edit Post

People who need crutches are usually unstable and will be attracted to your miracle plants, but they are more likely to supplement with other drugs. No matter how genuine and careful you are, there will always be opportunists on the side only too willing to abuse the programme for a quick buck.
You and you being a student of his majesty ought to know that there are many plants which are not to be messed with. {edited by TBNet}
I reiterate, TB DO NOT BE BLINDED BY MONEY.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A different Eric on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 10:50 am: Edit Post

@Archie:

OK....
[thinking...]
HEAR HEAR to the concept of "discussing rather than finger pointing" and using natural products in a responsible and informed way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bowl on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 09:01 pm: Edit Post

My fellow TBsians and across the world please Google mushroom (junju)various species before attempting to use any.
Some of them are deadly poisonous.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 10:30 pm: Edit Post

Cocaine comes from a plant, heroin comes from a plant, all natural products, what makes the mushroom sacred, and what's up with this ceremony thing, are you a shaman eric? People check out this thing on line, this is not something which should be welcomed in TB or anywhere in Ja. we have enough problems.You will not get quality tourists, [edited by TBNet]


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom and Jeanie on Tuesday, May 05, 2015 - 01:31 pm: Edit Post

Tourism is a very fragile and fickle business. What is profitable for a few may be detrimental to many. Treasure Beach is one the safest places in the world and the people are kind and helping and will always be, to us, the best asset Treasure Beach has.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gandoff on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 04:21 pm: Edit Post

The mushrooms are sacred, just as sacred as any other plant (though not technically a plant)many have a symbiotic relationship with plants and the soil, they are a huge part of life on earth and are more closely related to humans than plants. Psilocybin mushrooms are almost impossible to abuse. Set and setting are important for good results, of course. Just Google psilocybin mushrooms for healing. Another thing, the people who own the "resort" live there and are native Jamaicans. Eric is working to grow edible gourmet mushrooms in Jamaica as well. Mostly I perceive a fear of change and fear of the unknown.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Mr. Myco on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 01:25 pm: Edit Post

Treasure Beach is nearly a heaven on Earth to me. Jamaica itself is the Black Star Liner....fear not...I have bigger plans outside of yard. Ones and ones will always chant down progress, even those who claim to know the Emperor.

If you REALLY would like to research the safety and effectiveness of psilocybin you can follow this link for A MULTITUDE of studies by well reputed universities.....

http://csp.org/psilocybin/

you can chant down 'Babylon Institution' if you like, but I do believe His Majesty was quite fond of higher education and spoke quite frequently regarding it. And you can chant down the dollar too, but I do believe the Emperor also spoke regarding our industrious use of resources....even to the extent of mining and putting in coca cola factories.....then using actual cocaine.....


If you would like information regarding shamanic history....documented well longer than OUR sacred ganja (which incidentally can be health hazardous when used improperly) you can go here

https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_article6.shtml

You are welcome to resist the changing times, I know change is difficult...but it can offer a brilliant future.....No I am not a 'shaman' but i do have much experience and skill in this field.

Time will tell all, and you will see my intentions and love for Treasure Beach and its people, as well as my professionalism and industrious use of resource and skill.

I do value your concerns. I am not attempting to dismiss them, rather to offer you a different perspective. Despite for the 'Junju' is well known in Jamaica, mainly due to puritanical christian dogma....But I can assure you that there are many many high value edible mushrooms that we will be paying Jamaicans to grow for sale to your 'desired' tourists.

As a Rasta, you yourself would highly benefit from this living vegetarian protein that is more like meat than plant...and has several well documented cancer fighting properties.....perhaps you would also be interested in seeing how mushrooms have been mentioned in the Bible?......both edible and hallucinogenic....I hope we can all meet in person the next time I am in the lovely Treasure Beach area. I'll bring lots of info :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Concerned on Monday, May 11, 2015 - 09:54 am: Edit Post

So in summary it looks like many people do realize what this will lead to, primarily whether or not the "respectable important research subjects" stray from the safety of the facility while totally zonked out on junju, this will lead to others selling the stuff and more people coming to Treasure Beach as they do in Negril, to as Mr.Myco put it "misuse" the holy sacrament.

I am not impressed by use of ones and ones and comparing Jamaica to the Black Star Liner. No one is chanting down progress. Colonization can be called progress by many but as many displaced people would tell you colonization didn't help them progress.

Most people responding to this thread are able to do their own Google searches regarding the safety or safety risks of what you are up to.

Since you have taken the time to link us with some of them Eric Mr.Myco how about taking the time to answer all of the questions asked in this thread which was started out of concern?
-What is your professional experience with these DRUGS?
-What kind of work permit does this require?
-What will you do to assist someone having a bad trip?
-Here is a new question, you say there is indication that mushroom tripping can help people break bad habits, what kind of bad habit type people will you encourage to come so you can heal them?

You may have bigger plan outside of yard, but for some of us yard is all we have and outside change hasn't always been beneficial.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Counter on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 02:25 pm: Edit Post

@Concerned, I don't feel that your statement is true: "So in summary it looks like many people do realize what this will lead to..."

By my count, 6 whole people have voiced a concern about this.
4 have voiced support, or at least have said they want more info before they will make a judgement.

While 6 is greater than 4, I don't think it counts as "many" given the population of the area. I fear you're trying to make it sound like there's a groundswell of opinion when only a handful of people have weighed in.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 - 02:05 pm: Edit Post

The young dude who was killed by police in Madison Wis. was high on junju. He went berserk. Aren't our people crazy enough already, why should we want to add to it?
Many people do realise what this will lead to, but they are not on the NET. and this site has been very quiet. {edited by TBNet}


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By from yard on Thursday, May 14, 2015 - 11:48 am: Edit Post

Okay I read the guidelines, and I am not in violation of any rules, but my post have not made it to the website....I am against this new drug coming to our community. I am from Treasure Beach born and bred, and this is wrong for my community, in addition, all of my family and friends are against it. I friend of mine here in the States brother went crazy on this stuff, that was supposed to be controlled and in measured dosages, he is still walking around in a daze.....please post my message..

Thank you


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By new treasure beach girl on Thursday, May 14, 2015 - 11:42 am: Edit Post

this is my third post about this thread, and I am definitely against it, but none of my post made it to the website....hhmmmmmmm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TBNet on Thursday, May 14, 2015 - 02:11 pm: Edit Post

To those who are complaining of their posts not appearing here, we have not deleted any. We have edited some inappropriate comments but left the bulk of the message intact (and noted when we edited).

-TBNet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TBNet on Thursday, May 14, 2015 - 11:25 am: Edit Post

For clarity's sake, here's one news report regarding the shooting based on statements from the authorities. No mention has been made of the deceased's mental condition prior to the shooting.
(Note, this is the first news story that appeared after a Google search. We're not trying promoting one news outlet over another)

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tony-robinson-shooting-no-charges-lawful-use -force-n357876
"Dane County District Attorney Ismael Ozanne called the shooting of Robinson, 19, on March 6 by Officer Matt Kenny a "lawful use of deadly police force," saying that Robinson had Xanax, mushrooms and marijuana in his system and that multiple witnesses told investigators Robinson was "tweaking out" on mushrooms, jumping in front of cars and intimidating bystanders."

-TBNet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frenchman Born. on Friday, May 15, 2015 - 10:02 am: Edit Post

It's time to put this subject to rest.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Saturday, May 16, 2015 - 08:52 am: Edit Post

How do you suggest we put it to rest? Should we accept this potentially hazardous endeavour in our community?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Concerned on Thursday, May 14, 2015 - 03:20 pm: Edit Post

There is some kind of issue with posts reaching the site, two of my posts didn't make it but I really doubt there is censorship as I do know Rebecca and doubt she would ever do such a thing. I was careful in my wording not to be offensive which is difficult as someone in opposition to this [edited by TB.Net]

Once again we see Eric Mr.Myco not answering the important questions asked.


This is Jamaica and we have gem to protect. There are too many problems on the island to allow something we know will be a problem down the road to occur just to enrich a few.

The only change we don't need to resist is positive, progressive change that benefits all residents and hurts no one.


We don't need our fully PUBLIC beaches no matter how isolated to be used and our village pimped out as a place that welcomes this.

Again, as my unposted post stated to Counter, most everyone in the area who knew about one (I guess there have been more than one) of these mushroom vacations is very opposed and thought the entire thing was mad. Most of these residents don't go online much if at all and don't keep up with this site, that doesn't mean there is not resounding opposition.

Do not be surprised if there is a public forum or meeting organized against it in the near future as there seems to be enough concern for that to be a near reality.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Concerned on Friday, May 15, 2015 - 07:56 pm: Edit Post

Frenchman, if you don't want to read the discussion do not read it. Nothing wrong with a healthy debate, and nothing wrong with meetings and discussion in the community over new things being proposed and done.

If people never spoke up right now seaplanes would be taking off and landing in Great Pond (back when there was water).

So maybe if you lived nearer to Great Bay you would care more. Who this affect has right to speak.

Further, we a wait on some answers from Mr.Myco.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Really on Saturday, May 23, 2015 - 07:02 am: Edit Post

It never ceases to amaze me the way we think. Here is a guy with a valid legitimate business plan and people are up in arms. Yet on the other hands we embrace the crack addicts and their dealers because they are family and provides cheap labour. Taking into consideration that crack is responsible or is a contributing factor in most if not all the crimes taking place in and around Treasure Beach. This problem is what we should be concerned about.

The first post stating that it's a worrying trend is a stretch. The use of mushrooms has been going on in TB for years. Many of our addicts support their habits by providing mushrooms to tourist. I have yet to see anyone going crazy on mushrooms. On the other hand I have seen drunks trash rooms.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Saturday, May 23, 2015 - 08:58 am: Edit Post

A valid business plan which is relying on a loophole in the law, don't seem too valid to me, even if what you say about the mushroom use is true, and I don't believe it is, why would any sane person want to sanction aggravating the situation? Drunks trashing rooms I have not seen either, only on the screen.
We as a community do not embrace crack addicts and their dealers, speak for yourself.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By In the know on Sunday, May 24, 2015 - 08:51 am: Edit Post

I have seen rooms trashed, physical fights, idiot behavior, and more all in the name of alcohol.

Never saw that behavior as a result of ganja or mushrooms.

Archie all I can say is you must not live here if you do not know the crack addicts and dealers here because everybody knows who they are.

Facts are facts whether you want to agree or not is up to you. Even if I do not want to see mushroom business here these are the facts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dumb on Sunday, May 24, 2015 - 11:43 pm: Edit Post

I am trying to follow this thread, and I have to admit I am dumb as a stone. Can someone respond to my total idiotic mind as to what is about to happen in TB re mushroom. Please.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Concerned on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 04:11 pm: Edit Post

Nobody likes a drunk, drunks cause problems, we already have alot of bars. We have alot of drunks and that problem will not go away.

Ganja is all over and not much of a problem and about to become nearly legal. We are not going to get rid of it and many are making somewhat of a living off it already.

We do have our crack addicts in Treasure Beach and those who sell to them. They have an addiction, it is not good they do not have resources or family able to push them into rehab but they are here. We are lucky alot of them try to legit hustle instead of theif. Point is, they are already here. I DO NOT think they are selling mushrooms, haven't seen of it. I also do not see community pressuring them to cut out of selling it, but doubt this is ever going to happen. Another problem, yes.


WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS DON'T NEED MORE. DON'T NEED TO BE PIMPED OUT LIKE NEGRIL AS A MUSHROOM TRIPPING HAVEN! Simple.

Archie is hitting the nail on the head again.

Dumb, read from the top. Someone trying to make $ getting tourists to come trip on mushrooms for mushroom holidays. {edited by TBNet}


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Really on Monday, May 25, 2015 - 08:50 pm: Edit Post

Archie I admire your passion for TB. Please use that passion for worthwhile cause. {edited by TBNet} Start a drug awareness campaign and I will support you. The community knows who the crack dealers are. How many times have you called the police? TB is filthy with garbage, start a clean up campaign and I will support you. You are taking up a cause you have no control over. What you are trying to stop has been taking place for years. To date I am not aware of any locals participating. There are many things wrong with TB but a few tourist coming in to use mushrooms is the least of our problems.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Thursday, May 28, 2015 - 08:34 pm: Edit Post

So really, what you are saying is: since we have all these other problems, no harm in adding one more?
Are you also saying that mushroom use has been going on for years in TB?
I agree about the garbage, but that is an island wide problem which is quite disturbing to me too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Really on Saturday, May 30, 2015 - 04:26 pm: Edit Post

Archie it goes both ways. Are you saying ignore the rest and attack this one. I'm saying fighting against what we have control over is a better fight. Control in the form of laws or on the books for the things that I have mentioned wrong with TB.

Mushroom use has been going on in tb for between 15-20 years. I have never known of any locals that has indulged in it. A couple locals know. Of its existence and its value. It has almost disappeared from the lower areas of TB because three are no cattle to produce cow dung. You can still see a couple people searching for mushroom whenever we have heavy rains.