History of Pedro (Treasurebeach) what do you know?

Treasure Beach Forum: TB Runnin's: History of Pedro (Treasurebeach) what do you know?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aboriginal Jamaican on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 06:16 am: Edit Post

I know that Calabash bay Market was Monday Wednesday Friday.
I know that Fishermen has always been operating
from Calabashbay.
I know ther was a Communial Berrial ground,(Cemetry)I know there was a scool,post office,shops and one Hotel(it always took the name its owner) like, mr dicker.
I know we use to fly kites,spin gigs(tops)
I Know that many pedro (treasurebeach) people sons have lost their lives to the sea.I know many of the people immigrated abroad.I know Greatpond (salt lake) has alwas been there.I also know of Greatbay,Frenchman,Billys bay,Fortcharles.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Student on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 07:15 am: Edit Post

Call the gig makers for a contest! Craftsmanship and skill.

Someone suggested a marbles bout at the same time when we were discussing gigs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By distraction on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 09:40 am: Edit Post

I know I am a "Red-Man" from treasure beach.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aboriginal Jamaican on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 09:48 am: Edit Post

Student do you mean In treasurebeach (Pedro) there were Craftsman like Carpenters,Stone Masons, tailors. barber,and cabinet makers.I am filled with delight. I wonder what happened to those skill.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By native on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 09:05 pm: Edit Post

Interesting. Seriously,we need past time like playing gig back on the scene to develop creativity, good motor skill development and competition in a local community setting in the traditional way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Archie on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 03:39 pm: Edit Post

What is happening? The discourse is at an abysmal level! Reading the comments sometimes make one wonder if we are trying to highlight our stupidity!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Student on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 04:20 pm: Edit Post

I am not sure about tailors and stone masons nowadays Aboriginal Jamaican. There are wood workers and I think a few amateur barbers. Skilled house and boat builders are here. Many here have the patience and dexterity needed to be good craftspeople.

Some still have the disappearing skills needed to select the wood and shape it to the precise form of a gig that spins true. Throwing it with control takes high skill.

Any sponsors?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeannie from Canada on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 06:05 pm: Edit Post

"Distraction"... there are a many "Red People" of Pedro Area aka TB. Do you know thier history; how they came to be on the shores of Pedro, Jamaica?
"Aboriginal Jamaican"... some of those craftspeople are still active & employed thru generational knowledge in Pedro Area TB
I look forward to kites, spinning gigs & give me a marble anyday... much fun!
Looking forward to all the above & story tellers who may sing song a rich history!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aboriginal Jamaican on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 03:43 pm: Edit Post

No,no,Distraction please refrain from derivative.
Pedro (Treasure beach) People is of colour,and are very beautiful too.In hitorical terms,they are decendants of people from the U.K.These people,was known as pioneer,their "ship ran a ground" off the coast, many decades ago.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Z on Wednesday, October 02, 2013 - 03:26 pm: Edit Post

Don't get ole time yardies bwois started on on mek'n & launchin' bamboo kites mek from scratch...Here's Ringo's story:

At seven I made my first kite from palm stick, plastic bags and from my mom's bed sheets ripped in pieces for the tail. Yes I received several beatings for ripping up my mother's bed sheets.
At this age my kite was not the best design or craftsmanship but they always flew. By age ten my design skills became more refined due to annual kite making and the availability of materials.
During Easter I would make my own kites and fly them during the Easter weekend starting with Good Friday. Kites can be seen in the skies over Jamaica all year but during Easter the skies are filled with the buzzing sound of bamboo kites....Our minds have tremendous associative power. Easter brings images of kite flying, Palm Sunday processions, Good Friday Fish meals and Jamaican Easter Buns & cheese...

After a weekend of kite flying, we would all look forward to Easter Monday; kite enthusiasts call this day "cuttings day".
Cuttings day is when each kite flyer strapped halves of razor blades to the tail of their kites in an attempt to sever the twine of another kite while in flight. No one likes to see their kite drift away as the twine is cut by another kite razor tail, but this was all part of a long standing tradition in which your agility and competitiveness was always the real test on Easter Monday
...Touché

Wouldn't It Be A Glory Hallelujah To Have A Kite Flying Contest Off Our Beaches Come Easter Time!

Fly Ringo Kite (Click "About Ringo Kite")
www.flyringokite.com/#!our_story/c173r

Video of Sean's Low-Tech Kite-making:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4XG7Q-MT3g


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By memories on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 12:20 am: Edit Post

The market was such a rich history of TB. I hope one day it will return, even for one day a week.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By memories on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 12:22 am: Edit Post

Remember the ladies who use to ride their donkeys selling mangoes and guineps. Is that something of the past as well?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aboriginal Jamaican on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 09:53 am: Edit Post

Jeannie it is good to see we can stimulate discussion about the past and get some positive
feedback i admire your knowledge.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeannie from Canada on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 09:13 am: Edit Post

Reference to the historical accounts of Scottish migrants shipwrecked in Pedro (TB)are made in two recent non-fiction books. The Dead Yard by Ian Thompson & The Darian Gap by Martin Mitchinson.
The story goes that three ships of Scottish colonizers (1500 peoples) in the late 1700's were sent to Pananma area ,Port Escondio, to estabish a farming colony. Not long after due to impossible conditions only 500 peoples survived and they left on the three ships to return to Scotland. Only one ship made it thru the pass of Jamaica & Haiti, 2 ships wrecked on the banks of Pedro and those peoples intergrated with the populations of the time.Can anyone in Treasure Beach confirm this historical account?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aboriginal Jamaican on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 07:45 am: Edit Post

Come on you bright sparks,interlectual Pedorian, and Treasourian,where are you all,you must know a lot more.
Cattle Farming? was there any.
Christianity? how has it mattered.
The Arts,performing or, handy crafts.
Was thre ever a (cinema) picture house.
What about boat racing,or swimming the sea.
Tailors and dress makers,cobblers(shoe maker)
I am watching and waiting,for all you knowledge historians,to spend a little time down memory lane with me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aboriginal Jamaican on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 09:03 am: Edit Post

Native i like your input,what do you think about the loss of many of our traditions,like our communial cemetry (grave yard) did you know it existed,or even where it was sited.Did you know,
we use to,and could walk, all along the sea coast,
from greatbay to fortcharles,and now we cant.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By turey on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 12:11 pm: Edit Post

If the shipwreck story is true, who did the survivors meet in Pedro in the late 18th Century?

Late 17th Century wine bottles, +/- 1680's, have been found around Old Wharf. Did some of the pirates and buccaneers stop in Pedro before going to Port Royal? Was there a tavern here? I was told ships watered at a spring in Portland Bight before proceeding to the wicked city.

Some of my family spoke of 'pirate pickney'.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Deb on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 10:29 pm: Edit Post

Does anyone know about a Jewish cemetery in or around Alligator Pond?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nigel.S on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 11:01 am: Edit Post

I remember using flour and water as the glue to make kites and kite fights with the razors. Gigs had a piece of nail in the tip. We used an old tire with a baby food jar and a little bit of water inside the tire, two pieces of wood that is used in the making of fish pot, stick them in the bottle and that was our car or motorcycle. We would run with that and have lots of fun. Setting sweep's to catch ground dove. Think most buried loved ones on their property. I'm Jamaican born of Scottish descent and white or (Pedro Red People) most of that white came from a Yugoslavian father (never knew him). I remember Miss Inez riding her donkey smoking her pipe and selling vegetables and fruits. This may be more in line with the good old days but may also be in line with history of the area. Don't think kids do any of that anymore so its history. 1 Love All.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Curious on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 01:41 pm: Edit Post

Graveyard in Pedro? Where was this and what was it called? Was it the Graveyard in Great Bay where they use to bury dead foreign sailors? I vaguely remember Mrs Coke having a house somewhere near Old Wharf and a huge copper pot was somewhere close to her house. Was sugar cane once grown in Pedro or was the pot merely for decoration? Did they have residents living along the seacoast before that time? Remember that life goes from one span to the next and so does generation to generation. Any insight on who use to live in Pedro before our grand and great grandparents? I am curious to know the who, what, where and when.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By turey on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 06:29 pm: Edit Post

Ask before you get to Alligator Pond beach Deb. I visited twenty odd years ago and remember seeing 18th Century gravestones with Sephardic surnames.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By distraction on Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - 09:47 am: Edit Post

I do know that the Treasure Beach of the '80,s that I grew up is a lot different than the Treasure Beach of Today.Thanks in part to TBNET, Treasure Tours and all the others that are even too numerous to list here.your efforts have made Treasure Beach an even more special place to grow up now! And since World Teachers APPRECIATION Day was this past Saturday I would like to thank my favorite former Teacher Miss Ditty, may All of God's continuous blessings be yours, may you stay sweet and special in the Lord always,by a very grateful former student, your efforts never went in vain or unappreciated. K.A.M


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Deb on Wednesday, October 09, 2013 - 09:12 pm: Edit Post

Turey--yes the names would for sure be Sephardic...I will ask!