Official opening of Breds - Treasure Beach Sports Park Nov 12 + 13th. On Nov 12 at 11am we will have the official opening ceremony which will see Digicel Foundation and Minister of Sports, the Honourable Olivia Babsy Grange opening the park with an official ceremony followed by Treasure Beach Cricket Club playing Oral Tracy and the Media Team / followed by South East St. Elizabeth Masters playing The British High Commission (both are Twenty / 20 matches). Sunday Nov 13th will see the St. Elizabeth Football Association having the official opening ceremony and dress parade of the St. Elizabeth Major league followed by two major league matches. Funding for phase 2 was provided by Digicel Foundation, Jakes Hotel Villas & Spa, Sports Development Foundation and the Cousinea family. Phase 2 consists of; 3 cricket pitches, 2 football fields / Irrigation Well and Children's playing area. Phase 3 will commence in January 2012 and consist of; one Tennis Court, one Netball and Basketball Court, 2 additional football fields. Phase 4 will consist of the Desmond Henry Centre for Community Tourism, additional tennis courts, ropes course (for team building). "Our aim to to make the Breds Treasure Beach Sports Park a highly respected venue for Youth Development and Sports Leadership in the Caribbean. Our first approach with Youth Development is EduSport a progra which has involved upgrading community coaches who are delivering a structured Sports Program to 7 primary schools (Sandy Bank, Pedro Plains, Geneva, Newcombe Valley, Epping Forrest, Munro Prep, Mayfield) and Mannings Boys Home. EduSport is having an impact on 1200 youth and is being sponsored by Helping Hands Jamaica Foundation, Jakes Hotel Villas & Spa, Jack Sprat and Nike. For more info contact Jason Henzell: jason@breds.org / 876 562 0000

Reading the above post, I'm intrested to know what is "Edusport a progra" That is located in line 13...Thank you

Sounds like a lot of employment for the community. Will there be a medical clinic on the premises? there are lots of injuries associated with sports.

To Jason Henzell where is the road? to the Sports Park;

I am an admirer of the Sports Park and other things BREDS does. I also find it annoying when BREDS chooses to ignore responding to legitimate concerns and questions. They are eager to take my contribution but appear to be disinterested in answering questions. This is continuing to annoy me and does not seem to be a decent way to treat supporters.

getting annoyed you hit the nails right on the head

I take it there is now road to the Sports Park? {edited by TBNet}

The Oct. 22 event at the Sports Park was nice to see. Dozens of schoolkids donned their brand new Nike jerseys and tried out some of the new sports equipment. They all seemed really excited.

Please do not tell me to contact BREDS directly. If they can put notices on this site then they can have the courtesy to answer people who ask questions on this site. I am starting to feel used and ignored.

We've reached out to BREDS to respond here, but please understand that they are under no obligation to do so.

Their site is located at http://breds.org/

-TBNet

I was also there with Laurel last Saturday. We got there after the kids had stopped practicing, but we did see the kids in their new kits (donated by Nike) and looking like they just had a good workout. Lots of smiles.

Jason gave a closing talk about the importance of sport as well as good citizenship on and off the field, stressing that the program aims to make the youth better athletes as well as better over all people through discipline, focused effort, and hard work.

He went on to thank many people instrumental in the development of the sports park and the edusport program.

The park itself is coming along and, in my opinion as well as many I spoke with in the area, it is in keeping with the size and vibe of the community. Of course, how's its managed long term is the real test of whether it is 'good' or 'bad' for all concerned, but the general mood was that its a positive thing.

Hi TBNet I understand clearly,it was a simply question's where is the road to the Sports park?

IS there a real road to the Sports Park? Could someone describe where it is, if it's paved and about how wide it is.

The road to the sports park is clearly marked off the main beach road...a big sign shows you where to turn. It's across from Doc's on the Bay Villa ..and before Maureens shop and Delvins jerk stand. It is an unpaved lane. the sports park is lovely and a great contribution to the community - hope you will enjoy it.

There are two roads to the Park. Fishermans Lane and the one by Calabash House. Both are in quite passable, but do have potholes, etc. I was told that during events, they will be made one way to help the flow of traffic.

Here are a couple of pics of the signs...one at the entrance by Doc's on the Bay and one at the entrance of the park.

what friendly and welcoming signs

BREDS has a responsibility to provide safe premises under the Occupier's Liability Act. The law imposes a duty on the occupier (referring to the operator) of premises to ensure that the visitor is safe whilst using the premises.

Children are generally owed a higher standard of care than adults, being that children are less responsible and prone to acting on childish instincts and impulses. This is of special concern for sports facilities that run special programmes for children. In these cases the operators must be cognizant of the fact that they will have to meet the highest duty of care in respect to making certain their premises is safe.

This higher standard of care includes constant supervision in most cases. If occupiers do not take appropriate precautions and a child gets injured on their premises they quite probably will be held liable. This increased duty of care extends even to the child trespasser.

I would judge this signage as insufficient to fulfill the requirements set forth under the Occupier's Liability Act.

The vibe I'm getting from some of the posts here difinetely flow to the negative pole. I think this is a positive for the district. As for the signs, what do you want? If what you want is something more "upscale", I don't think anyone would object if you would volunteer the funds to help out.

Congratulations Treasure Beach....sounds like you have some nice new programs to keep the kids healthy and busy! When you have to get up early to play sports, it tends to get you to bed early withour mischief the night before! Hope that the girls get as much out of this as the boys, as there are as many girl's sports scholarships available in the US as there are boy's scholarships....but everything is a step in the right direction. Best wishes for the success of all the sports programs...respectfully, Janet Nichols and Erik MacPeek, Tampa

Could someone please translate the legal opinion given above about the signs into words the rest of us mortals can understand.

Check the spelling on the big sign... "their premises" not "there premises" or maybe you meant "these premises"? Good luck.

Thank you for bringing our spelling mistakes to attention. We will rectify these asap.
Please be assured that we take your comments seriously and will always endeavour to reply. Therefore I beg your patience if we are sometimes a little slow. As a volunteer organisation we are at times short of hands on deck! We also welcome you to contact us directly at the Breds Source or by email: info@breds.org if you require clarification on any of our projects.

As has been pointed out by previous contributors, there are 2 access roads to the Sports Park. We are mindful of any disruption to residents in Treasure Beach and want to work with you towards solutions. Thank you for your interest and please continue to let us have your comments.

Reply from Maisie Allen - Managing Director Breds To further expand on EduSport, it's a primary school sports program prompted by the lack of physical education classes at this level. Physical activity is important to help children develop healthy bodies and minds. It provides them with different learning opportunities away from the classroom. The program is structured to encourage participation and enjoyment in a variety of sports from very early age. For further information and a fact sheet please email info@breds.org

What I got from this sign is this, we don't have a medical clinic so if you are injured too bad for you. Not very welcoming, or this does not apply to the organized sports activities, but to me that just wants to hang out and play on my own.Please clarify.

This apparently would apply to any activity, organized or not. In essence it tells people Breds takes no responsibility for anything that happens on this property. I feel the sign may be as meaningless as a sign in a drycleaners shop where they tell you they are not responsible for anything that happens to your clothing even if it was their fault. The sign intimidates some people not to complain but it does not legally absolve the establishment of responsibility.

Miss Allen, it is wonderful to see a response from Breds on this site. It is also wonderful to know they have a Managing Director. We appreciate your stated concern.

I and many others are quite aware that anything anyone says on this site is done voluntarily and that you have no obligation whatsoever to do so. I would like to suggest that you invite inquiries on the site as well as by writing to info@breds.org. If responses are shown on this site I believe they would answer queries that multiple people have, thus freeing up your time to do other important things. Understand this is a suggestion made with the best of intents for all concerned.

Think they meant "these premises". {edited by TBNet}

Congratulations BREDS and Treasure Beach for a job well done. By the way there are signs like yours in many beautiful places all over the world, including misspelled words and it doesn't take a genius to figure out the gist of the signs meaning. Now I'm afraid I'll be criticized for my grammar/spelling or someone will demand I provide a comprehensive list of such signs...just kidding.

Oh come on people. This is beyond petty now. Everyone knows who the people are that don't like the Sports Park and if the 'interim' sign is all you have to complain about at this point, it just seems pretty desperate. BREDS is now trying to have a flow of information but it is going to be very difficult if all people can find to complain about is how ugly the sign is or it it's spelled incorrectly. Why not make helpful suggestions instead of silly criticisms.

Wow A.Todd, sorry for "complaining" about your sign, but how do you know that I don't like your park?

A.Todd,we are with you.All people do is whine.Why not do something constructive.As for the big tree, it is no longer in the middle of the road. Why don't you bring your pick up truck and chainsaw and help haul it away. If you visited the Sports Park, you would see all the good that is happening.

It's not my park. I have absolutely nothing to do with the Sports Park or BREDS.

Who like it use it
who no like it don't go

Who dont like sign
or grammaticl errors
dont read the sign
or my post again

who agree wit me smile

everyone have a great day

I am sure alot of pickney are going to
build up some muscles and have some laughs

so hope all the naysayers bear that in mind
and as Atodd says just comment something
CONTRUCTIVE

people love to bad mind too much

crab inna barrell and crab online

before you say so I know nuff misspellings

and typos but ah so it go

one love

I was against the sports park when it was going to have a huge stadium and a car park for about 600. I am now for it the way I see it shaping up. That doesn't mean I am for spelling mistakes, especially when so many kids in Treasure Beach need all the help they can get.

Thank you for your words, Calm Down. I have never said anything on this site about the sports park. As a physical education teacher, I am the first to push the benefits of athletics for young people. I also teach my students that academics are equally as important. If a student has a failing grade at my school, they are not allowed to play on one of our teams.

Keeping the mind fit is as essential as keeping the body fit.

Not very many grow up to become professional athletes even when they think they have a good chance.

Spelling mistakes are one thing, but misuse of a word is quite different. One should not confuse their and there and it's quite legitimate to point things like that out. There is a direct relationship between words and intelligence, and everyone should strive for excellence in thought, word and deed. A careless approach to one is reflected in the others.

I was there no long a go, and did go in the Fishermanīs Lane Road, with a low to the grown car, sad, sad, also the ones living on those roads for what I understand are not happy with the PARK, that is way they do not agree on fixing the ROAD, but if when the roads are fix you donīt have a ditch for the water to run, WILL DESTROY YOUR ROADS ALL THE TIME LIKE IT DOES NOW. DITCH will help to keep the roads on better shape.
That is all I ear from TOURIST,...the roads are BAD.

I agree with the Spookster. A sports park, with the main users being youth, should have signs with the correct spelling, and use of words. What are we teaching the youth if we cannot accomplish this simple feat? It is actually somewhat embarrassing. When is doubt, check the dictionary!

It is definitely great to strive for excellence, and definitely not derogative to attain such feat.

One can make grammatical errors, but to accept it as normal is not quite intelligent.

Fishermans lane is already a mess. If Breds does things to cause more traffic on it then they should have to fix it. Its not fair to the residents. {edited by TBNet} Also they can't make that road one way when they have events because people LIVE there and their rights come first.

Is Fisherman's lane a government owned lane? I really need to know cause I need to call on the government for some help in there.

Just curious how many who are so upset over spelling and grammatical errors are from Treasure Beach?

This had been posted above:
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By Visitor on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 08:56 am: Edit Post

There are two roads to the Park. Fishermans Lane and the one by Calabash House. Both are in quite passable, but do have potholes, etc. I was told that during events, they will be made one way to help the flow of traffic.
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My question is: can BREDS decide the direction of roads they do not own?

There's only 1 person so upset. Ask her if she's from TB.

Dear Wanderer, I am not from Treasure Beach. I know someone who lives off Fisherman's Lane and she is extremely upset about the use of that road for the Sports Park. If I say her name she will never forgive me and I will not break her confidence in me. I will also not say my name because I visit about every other year or more often if I can afford to and I don't want to be treated any different. You may not believe me but I swear I am telling the gospel truth.

Wondering and wanderer, no one is upset about wrong spelling or grammatical errors, but goodness gracious it shouldn't be too hard to write correctly especially when it is going to be read by the world, literally. This is the 21st century and more and more people have access to education, so there is no excuse for making a sign like that.Everyone is proud of the TB communities so we do not need to advertise ignorance. Guess what? I am from TB. Incidentally, the error was not one of spelling.
The sign is also too crowded, the warnings etc., should be on a different notice board.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-15595548 !!!

Right on Spooky Dude. Maybe do what we ask our children: After you write something, step back and read it over again to make sure it is OK. If I make an error here on this site, it is not that big of a deal. But I agree that this is something read by the world, and is now on the internet for BILLIONS to see. My opinion is the sign is a reflection on TB and its citizens...Take that for what it is worth...

Right Kate, if you make an error correct it, don't excuse it. That's right Bob, it is so easy now-a-days to correct your mistake, we have no excuse.
I made a mistake about seperating the sign from the warnings. I realised after I pressed post that I had made an error. There are in fact two signs. However, the external signs should have just the name of the park, and an internal sign should have the warnings, with the proper wording, of course.

Ai Ai Ai!!! What a waste of time and energy. Spelling and grammer are learned in school; sports is played in the park. All you complainers should give some money to the Scholarship Fund (hello Karen). Wat time di game start?

no name you are right to talk for your friend I am going to be a resident of the lane close to calabash house soon.I dont understand how the resident of both lanes just stand by {edited by TBNet}
The resident of both lanes need to be free to go in and out of their lanes as they like.Well I spoke with a few foreighner like myself who have properties in that lane and [edited by TBNet} there are going to be alots of problems the right road for that property is the school lane I now that from I was a little child growing up.

{edited by TBNet} The park is a good thing but if the powers that be believe they are going to monopolize the lanes then that's where the problem is. The most accessible road would be the school road to me. Jakes need to also asphalt the lanes if this is going to be used by them as these roads that will be frequently travelled are muddy and nasty when it rains heavily so excess traffic will make it worse. The people who live in these lanes should not be inconvenienced. It will definitely also be attracting more rogues in the community thus most people will have to start grilling up their houses. I am not against the park however.

Di grilling wont stop di gunmen dem.

Sometimes it's scary to think about moving back to Treasure Beach.

oopsie poopsie!

No reason to be afraid. We need people willing to report things and police sharp enough to help convict criminals. I don't see the sports park bringing in many outsiders unless they go back to the stadium concept and decide to make it a place that will attract outsiders.

To fear Not: Stay tuned, that's for sure!
And that's all I've got to say about that.

To Bob: You sound like a nice guy so spill the beans. Do you know anything about plans to put a stadium in the sports park? I have been under the impression that was scrapped for reasons Breds didn't say and didn't have to say such as lack of funding or fear of public outcry after such a thing was built in the middle of a residential community.

No, I know nothing except for the fact that things tend to change including the minds of people. The problem is, it is way too easy for people to do whatever they want in Jamaica. And the 'good old boy' system works well there. I have noticed on most all of the laws in Jamaica, after the law, what is written is this: "Or at the descretion of..." It is usually who you know. So anyway, should someone decide to change their mind..well...stay tuned!

Not everyone who extend the hand of friendship is a friend.We do not need any sports facility to attract sportsmen from far and wide, we need facilities which will provide avenues for the training of youths in the community and a venue for competing with other youths in the area and maybe for the occasional exhibition matches, and things like tennis courts to give tourists more options. What we don't need is a venue which attracts too many outsiders. The people pushing the venue may have other interests than those stated, and citizens should be vigilant and make sure that what they have been given is not a Trojan Horse.

Hi bob you're so right,money talk B.......T walk that is the way Jamaica system works soooo sad.

The only way those of us who do not live in Treasure Beach will ever know what is happening is if local people and visitors are kind enough to post some sort of progress reports. If there is even the hint of a stadium or something else designed to attract outsiders I would want to know because it would affect my plans to return for a vacation. One reason I love Treasure Beach is because it is not a place that attracts outsiders to come to events.

why aren't there pictures from the opening this past weekend

Wasn't born here but have been here from a child and Treasure Beach is my home.
Times change, improvements and development agreed or not, happen.
I am in favor of the Sports Park and what it can bring if developed in Phases that correlate with the people and our surroundings.

Yet the roads that are used for the facility are dangerous tracks, that inconvenience residents with dust, noise, a constant flow of traffic and more than anything the lack of respect for our homes.
Those roads are not for access to commercial properties but our residences, our "CASTLES".

How is it possible that planning permission was granted to a facility of this size, that will get bigger, with those roads?
Suppose there is a fire, an accident, an emergency, how do the necessary vehicles get in and out as they should?
Your signs tell us categorically " we are on our own, no liability"
The tracks are narrow and definately cannot accommodate a constant flow of vehicles with ease.
I don't want to drive my vehicle down there equipped for the road, yes, but not huge potholes, a falling wall that, while I wait in traffic to exit it comes down on my vehicle!
Outsiders that come in and rob the patrons in there vehicles while waiting in your traffic jam, on the narrow track where you become a sitting duck with hardly any lighting at night.

Come on BREDS this is an impossible situation that your Development Committee need to rectify NOW.
{edited by TBNet} have you really thought about the impact of 500 or a 1000 vehicles, trying to get in and out of the park will have on our community?
Traffic jams to Sandy Bank School and beyond as the visiting patrons are trying to negotiate those tracks, with bottle necks, you claim are "Free Flowing Roads" to park and it begins all over again on Exit.
By the end of an event those said patrons, will have consumed alcohol, enjoyed there event and are blowing horns with a victory salute, or frustration from loss, as they pass our homes, (children asleep, aged resting) on exit.
Does BREDS provide ear plugs (noise) and oxygen masks (dust from the track) to its residents that are affected?

Yes a development that can bring revenue, employment as it does already, popularity extension to the area, visitors that fall in love with TB and purchase land, relationships that can be made from the glimpse of an eye, yet, we would like to see a more CONSIDERED approach to this problem of "A DEFINATE NEED FOR A ROAD".

According to progress reports needed above, "...it is not a place that attracts outsiders to come to events." What? Have you not heard of the annual fishing tournament, or the beach football competition? It seems like in our zeal to all pile on the criticism, we have lost all perspectives. Treasure Beach is not an economically self supporting community. Let's get with the program.

Treasure Beach is not an economically self supporting community. We all know there is not enough business here. It's hard to find a full hotel, guest house, guest villa, restaurant, bar or shop. Less fishing boats are going out and they come back with less and less people wait on the beaches to get fish. Less farming is done and if things grow there might not be enough customers. So if there are events or places that attract outsiders to come spend their money that can be a positive thing for the community.

On the other hand people should realize that not all establishments will benefit from these outsiders. I cannot see outsiders searching out a bar or restaurant in Great Bay or Billys Bay or Fort Charles. If food and drink is being sold at the Sports Park visitors are likely to consume those things and not look for a different place. If teeshirts are being sold at the park I don't see people bothering to look for them in the shops. If someone is coming for a night or two the hotels and guest houses might get a rental but the villas won't because they need to rent to a minimum number of guests and not usually for less than maybe five nights.

May talks about the roads and is almost begging to BREDS to do something to fix the ones leading to the Sports Park. People have been saying this for YEARS but BREDS does nothing. They pretend it is not their problem. But if they are the ones responsible for heavy traffic on roads that are already fallng apart it IS their problem. All the disturbance that will come to residents from the traffic, dust, broken pipes and noise IS their problem.

I say if BREDS took on the problems as much as they are promoting use of the Sports Park then they would have a lot more supporters and a lot less people criticizing what they are doing. They can't take credit for the good things and pretend the bad things are not their concern.

To both May and Mixed blessing, your criticisms are well thought out and balanced. Life is not just about playing ball so let's hope the powers that be are paying attention to the infrastructure. With that being said, we aren't relocating Sabina Park or the National Stadium to Treasure Beach. It is a sports park for the youth to develop and learn. You never know if the next international star will come out of TB. Give them a chance.

Very rational thinking, sportsman. I hope others will look at the sports park from that point of view also, let's not dwell on the negatives only.

I agree with Sportsman. Both May and Mixed Blessing have raised valid points. Let's hope Breds pays attention to what is written on this forum and does not choose to ignore what is meant to be constructive criticism. For one I get annoyed when they only post announcements here and then ask people to contact them by private email if they have a question. Breds is part of our community and I feel they should not be afraid to answer questions so one and all can understand their viewpoints.

agree with you sportsman.

Wondering how many international sports stars are functionally illiterate. I know of one very talented sportsperson from the community who might have gotten signed to play pro but he could hardly read or write and that made it not happen.

Jason Henzell has his phone number listed at the top of the page,so anyone can ask about any concerns or questions they have.I do not see on this forum where anyone has contacted him.please do,thanks

If Miss Kennedy gets asked a question on this forum she answers it. She is willing to address concerns for anyone to see and read. Seeing the answers here is easier for anyone who reads the forum. One person answers questions to help everyone. One has decided not to. Form your own conclusions Tree Farmer.

Agree with the person advocating Mr. Henzell using this forum. Before anyone says anything about HE DOES NOT HAVE TO DO THIS I know this but am suggesting it be done for the convenience of people reading this forum which include a lot of Mr. Henzell's guests at Jakes. I am one who sent an email to him and did not get a response. Why should I waste my money making an international call and end up leaving a message which will probably not be returned. {edited by TBNet}

You have made my point Wondering. That unfortunate would-be superstar got the help he needed on the ballfield. What was lacking was a good education..... IN SCHOOL.

There is another thread about the sports park, running concurrently with this, in which I agree with others that BREDS show total disregard for public inquiries. Mr Henzell is evidently a busy man, with little time for pedestrian questions, so I understand his non-response here. But BREDS is the front organization and really should have a better PR approach. I for one am turned off.