Pelican Bar in top 50 best beach bars

Treasure Beach Forum: TB Runnin's: Pelican Bar in top 50 best beach bars

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By PB Fan on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 12:38 pm: Edit Post

Here's a link to the 50 best beach bars according to CNN International. Pelican Bar is listed #47.

Here is the article from this link:

http://www.cnngo.com/explorations/drink/worlds-50-best-beach-bars-709433?hpt=hp_ bn12

"When a place claims to have “the best cocktails in the sea” it’s easier to be cynical. But Pelican Bar really could have the best, because it really is in the sea.

Part of the Jakes Treasure Beach resort,the Pelican is built out on a shoal requiring a short boat ride for a visit.

No Internet, no TVs, no pool tables -- just thatched roof, seats and booze. No wonder it’s considered by fans to be the single best beach bar in the Caribbean."

Is The Pelican Bar owned by Jakes?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By wondering?? on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 05:20 am: Edit Post

Since when was Floyd's Bar owned by Jakes??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By eco-rock on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 09:05 pm: Edit Post

And no bathrooms. Please relieve yourself in the ocean - the coral reef's will be fine! [sarcasm].


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By USA on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 11:06 am: Edit Post

Love the Pelican Bar nice and relaxing out there,one of a kind.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 12:50 pm: Edit Post

Interesting, about the bathroom, what is the situation? Is there a portable toilet?
Is Jakes in partnership with Floyd?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 01:43 pm: Edit Post

Spooky Dude, you should just go there yourself and see. Think about it...look at the pictures...No bathroom, but then again you probably would not sit there all day and night. I cannot believe you do not know the details about this. After all, you are THE Spookster!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By concerned! on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 08:56 am: Edit Post

Nope, no bathrooms there, and I never remember seeing any portable toilets. My daughter had to go to the bathroom, and as a parent, I did the responsible thing and took the waste with us. (there was an issue with privacy though, because there really is none of that there either).

If Jakes is now involved in Floyd's venture, perhaps they will consider making a small, curtained area where people can relieve themselves and provide containers for taking it with, or leaving it behind to be disposed of in a responsible way!!

It was a great snorkel area...after reading this, I hate to think of what we were snorkelling through!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 10:45 am: Edit Post

The toilet idea is great, as that will provide an even more positive experience with less anxiety for all.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By floyd on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 08:39 am: Edit Post

Jakes had NOTHING to do with Pelican Bar, the idea was Floyd´s, and he build it him self...the bathroom situation, well that is a place to spend a couple of hrs, you eat, you drink and you GO HOME TO DO YOUR THINGS. Is fine just like it IS. A RUSTIC BAR ON THE WATER....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 09:09 pm: Edit Post

Well bob, I cant really see too clearly, a little portable potty could be lurking somewhere in the belly of the beastly pelican! I hope to visit one of these days, but being a man of unruly movements, I will at least have to travel with a 'scandal bag' or two!! That's what I am told the gully banks' residents use for disposing of their 'movements'! Here is a limerick for you bob:

A remarkable bird(bar) is the Pelican,
Its beak hold more than its belly can
It can store in its beak
Enough food for a week
And i'll be darned if I know how the hell it can!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sweetlips/Lynnette on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 06:37 pm: Edit Post

OMG!!! Who gives a rats who owns Pelican??? Really??? Floyd's little bar is awesome and it's in the middle of the sea people. No bathrooms, ya gotta go then GO, the caribbean sea is a BIG place! If peeing in the sea makes you anxious you need to find somthing in JA that makes you relax and not worry about such minor things. Holy Smokes!!!! Relax, enjoy and don't make it so complicated!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By shorty on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 03:49 pm: Edit Post

All I know is that when I drink beer I go more often. So I don't think I could hang out too long at the PB!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Schwartz on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 03:22 pm: Edit Post

I would put Floyd's Pelican Bar at #1 in the world. What could possibly be better? And thank goodness Jake's does not own it, or it might turn into a spa or something -- with bathrooms. Floyd is the best, and so is his bar, just the way it is.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By z on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 07:21 am: Edit Post

Happy Campers know a ting or two...when you got to go, you got to go!

Cheapie Portable Toilets for Ands, Ifs & Butts with Bam-boo Privacy Screen:
www.thelashop.com/portable-camping-toilet/?gclid=CPWWsfP4xKsCFeNx5Qodz0dFZQ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By treasure girl on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 09:36 am: Edit Post

OMG! have you guys ever heard of tide, it comes and take the waste faster than you can let it go! [edited by TB.Net] so Floyd keep doing what you do hon! PB rule!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 10:45 pm: Edit Post

He should have a portable toilet..it is not that difficult to arrange. No. one is not bad, but number two...no no. Get a portable.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By fun on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 07:22 pm: Edit Post

People just go to have fun and relax....[edited by TB.Net] We spend couple hrs there, had the FISH, SIT on the water with beer, got some sun...it was the BEST OF THE BEST TIME we ever had...with some friends. and on the way back a enjoyable ride with Ted. No complains


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By quinn on Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - 08:54 pm: Edit Post

this is the most silly discussion i have ever read....bathroom at PB....lol


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Judy Schoenbein on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 09:06 am: Edit Post

Pelican should at this point be licensed by the JTB in order to derive the support and international recognition it so richly deserves. Please Floyd, work with TPDCO and upgrade to include certain facilities. Would be delighted to assist.

JHTA Area Chairman
South Coast Chapter


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By littlemamalisa on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 09:15 pm: Edit Post

I agree with Floyd! Best spot to spend a couple quiet hours....beautiful! No changes EVER necessary! It will be one of the most memorable experiences you have ever had in Jamaica. Stop whining people! Just like so many things in life, the CHOICE to visit (or not) is yours. I CANNOT wait to get out there next month and have a beer or two or three! ONE <3


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JTB questions on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 06:36 pm: Edit Post

Being licensed by the Jamaican Tourist Board; What does it cost and what do you get for paying that money? I have heard it is not such a great deal.

Miss Judy, you are not suggesting Floyd should have a real bathroom are you? Or is he supposed to tell people to hold it until they get back on dry land?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rootsinclusive on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 12:40 pm: Edit Post

Thinking of the other artificial islands; the cruise ships. What do they do with their waste?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By PBar on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 02:39 pm: Edit Post

If someone can not hold #2 to they get to dry land, I would think they have a problem, just like going to a restaurant, just thise one is in the ocean, and Floyd did all that hard work of building that BAR all by him self....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Van on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 06:30 pm: Edit Post

The Pelican was given a two page photo in New York Magazine a couple of years ago. I thought then that it would be ruined. (See the neon, lines of boats and "are you one the list" to have a Red Stripe. But it hasn't happened and it remains what it is: the coolest beach bar on earth. I hope it makes a decent living for its owners and workers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By beachbarrest on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 09:29 pm: Edit Post

Everytime I had visitors, we went there,and we all love that place, like Van says, is the cooles beach bar I know, but remember it is a Beach bar and restaurant, he makes the best fish with rice....a beer to go with it


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Just Saying on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 08:12 am: Edit Post

We've been a member of JTB for years. It costs money - depends on what you are and how big you are as to the money they charge - a whole lot of paperwork and inspections, very little consideration to small businesses, and I could go on. Not once has JTB directly brought us business - but they sure can ask for freebies. Then once we had some guests involved in a problem. Called JTB as we were always told they will help us during these times. Nope, told us to call somebody else. As we are a small business we asked if JTB offered group rates for insurances even health insurance for members or something. Nope. I guess JTB does advertise Jamaica world-wide so maybe that is what we are paying for. Never got us in New Yorker magazine or given us the exposure Pelican Bar has gotten over the years without being a member. Heck, we can't even get listed on the JTB website. I think Pelican Bar has done just fine without JTB. Probably much better. If JTB got involved there would be lots of rules and regulations put in place and that would ruin the place. There are many kinds of tourists not just the all-inclusive resort tourist. Sometimes people forget that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Just Saying 2 on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 08:26 am: Edit Post

As JTB members we could not get on their web site either. Also I am not sure what good it would have been because I hear establishments do not get rentors from it. Not being JTB endorsed doesn't seem to have hurt us one bit. It cost too much to run a guesthouse without paying dues for something that gives you nothing back for your money. It seems more like a charity and if I want to give my little bit of money away then I want to choose my own charity where it might help children or poor people or the elderly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Give us a break on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 12:28 pm: Edit Post

Tried to get household goods imported with no duty or less duty through JAMPRO. We didn't have enough bedrooms to qualify. Added more bedrooms and JAMPRO changed its rules to make us need even more bedrooms. Jamaican Tourist Board wanted us to have a 24 hour guard and a lifeguard or some big sign near the pool giving all the rules. WHO makes these crazy rules? Another entity wanted us to pay a tax because our guests touched the beach. Can get no tax relief for installing solar or wind while JPS bills are killing us. We need to pay a tax to display our sign. The roads are in horrible condition and eat into any profits made by drivers when they have to keep taking their vehicles into the shop. All this has nothing to do with the current or past elections. It is what the Jamaican government does to "help" encourage tourism. Meanwhile the people we keep bringing to Jamaica spend their hard earned money here. We lose money year after year. Isn't that enough?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By hands off Floyd on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 01:31 pm: Edit Post

JTB please keep your hands off Floyds. If you are worried about the environment, look at some of the local restaurants that manage to use styrofoam for everything possible. Floyd would never do that. He may not follow your rules but what he does is as good as it gets.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pelican Bar Lover on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 05:34 pm: Edit Post

Floyd gives you a glass bottle and then turns it in. He gives you a real plate and then washes it. The Pelican Bar doesn't need PR from the JTB. They are more famous than all of Treasure Beach.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JTB question on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:57 pm: Edit Post

Lets say there is a place in TB that serves pizza and other food and drink and they have the proper bathroom facilities and their servers have the right food handler licenses. Would it then be OK with the JTB for this imaginary place to serve things in nonboidegradable glasses and plates.

What does JTB say. What does common sense say.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cottage. on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 11:43 am: Edit Post

Is the JTB a branch of Sandals/Hedo and Co?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By eliminate styrofoam on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 02:18 pm: Edit Post

Before the JTB picks on Floyds for not belonging and then having to put in a proper bathroom and kitchen, it is my opinion they should go after all the establishments that serve drinks and soup and food from styrofoam. What about the plastic utensils they use? I refuse to believe that a tiny amount of urine will poison our seas. Does the JTB ask fishermen to hold it for several days when they are out at sea? Use your God given common sense.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kathy on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 06:05 pm: Edit Post

who would think that a link about a bar in in TB owned and built by a hard working guy who has survived and rebuilt after hurricanes and continues to serve great food and drinks in an atmosphere that is ideal would turn into such a discussion about bathrooms??? Is this to say that none of these people have never ever peed in the sea?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By abbreviations on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 04:53 pm: Edit Post

What do all the different abbreviations stand for? JTB, JAMPRO, TPDCO and more.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By small people on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 09:25 am: Edit Post

Who would think the JTB could seriously imagine they HELPED establishments in TB get business? The way I see it they are another government bureau out to collect $$ from property owners who struggle to make it. Maybe they help the places like Sandals and the big hotels but they do nothing but give we small people trouble.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rootsinclusive on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 03:36 pm: Edit Post

But are our servants listening?

This is a long established and respected forum focusing on the TB community. TB is refered to as a (the?) prime Jamaican Eco-Tourism/Community-Tourism destination. Why do none of our Public Servants post here answering reasonable questions and requests?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By let it alone on Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 09:29 am: Edit Post

No portable toilet necessary there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 04:38 pm: Edit Post

Kathy, you only pee? What about number two? A portable loo would be a welcome addition, just in case. Remember people swim and snorkel,wouldn't be nice to mistake floating faeces for fish!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A thought on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 09:09 am: Edit Post

I think the discussion about preserving the environment is on the side of those who pay JTB dues even if they mess up things way more than people who don't pay dues. Maybe the unwritten purpose of the JTB is to protect its members.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By unnecessary on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 07:46 am: Edit Post

Dude, I am guessing you've never been to the Pelican Bar. The facility you suggest is not at all necessary. The bar is a mile or so off land and anyone in dire need could easily get a lift in a boat. I can see you suggesting a bathroom for the Shallow Bar next.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By silly on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 11:03 am: Edit Post

How about chemical toilets about every 100 feet apart on the beaches. Yes this is as silly as the bathroom suggestion for the Pelican Bar.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Unhappy member on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 09:29 am: Edit Post

Sorry JTB, I don't think you do your job. We are members and we get maybe one rental a year from someone who found us through you. Our rentals come from other places that promote consistently and professionally. Tourists do not look to the JTB for places to stay. I pay my dues kind of as a public service and not because I think I will get anything in return.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 09:35 pm: Edit Post

Silly, {edited by TBNet}...what is the harm in having one of those portables for emergency usage? Unnecessary, I have not actually been to the bar but I am quite aware of its location. {edited by TBNet} I cannot understand the resistance to having this device, it can be camouflaged to blend in with the rustic nature of the place. The alternative is nasty.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sane on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 06:40 pm: Edit Post

How about a reasonable 1 chemical toilet per beach? I think that proper waste management is a sane and reasonable goal, whether it be on land or in the sea. Improperly handled human waste causes real health and environmental problems.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TBNet on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 11:07 am: Edit Post

Hey everyone, we think the Great #2 Debate has run its course here. If you have new viewpoints to share, please do. But we won't post anything that's just rehashing what's already been said.

-TBNet