Resindence of TB did you know ?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bowl on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 09:48 pm: Edit Post

We are being fed with cancerous materials for some 30 years now.
Residence please go and take a look at the water pipes that are bieng repaired above the Great Bay Junction going towards the Police Station. ASBESTOS. These Pipes don't rot from outside in they gradually erode from inside out, so when you turn on your tap and see some sediments that settle in your glass or in your Britta, you are looking at particles of ASBESTUS.
Cancer, Asthma, and other ailmemts that you wonder about. How come ? There is no one in the family tree with any of those. ASBESTUS.
I am no wistle blower or WikiLeak. The facts are there, Go check.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TBNet on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 09:57 am: Edit Post

This is a pretty serious statement. What tests have been done and what proof is there to show this really is asbestos?

-TBNet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By what are the facts? on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 05:44 pm: Edit Post

Please if you concrete proof of this info then come to TB.Net with this.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Carol Reynolds-Saunders on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 06:07 pm: Edit Post

This is an article on the internet regarding asbestos pipes conveying drinking water.
For additional information go to :
http://www.fwr.org/pipeline/dwi0822.htm

Most epidemiological studies found no association with any specific gastrointestinal cancers, although a small number of studies did find a weak positive association. The studies considered the best did not provide evidence for a link between asbestos in drinking water and cancer. Of the 8 long-term animal studies, only one suggested a possible statistically significant increase in benign tumours in one sex, when compared to historical control animals but not the control animals used in the study.

There is potential for exposure to asbestos fibres in drinking water by inhalation of aerosol droplets or from fibres that are trapped on clothing during washing and which are subsequently released into the atmosphere. This has been studied and except in an extreme case there was no measurable increase in the number of fibres in the indoor atmosphere of houses. In addition, the fibres in drinking water consist almost entirely of short fibres, which are considered to contribute little or no risk to public health.

The World Health Organisation considered asbestos in drinking water arising from asbestos cement pipe in their 1993 edition of the Guidelines for Drinking Water Quality. The guidelines state "Although well studied, there has been little convincing evidence of the carcinogenicity of ingested asbestos in epidemiological studies of populations with drinking water supplies containing high concentrations of asbestos. Moreover in extensive studies in laboratory species, asbestos has not consistently increased the incidence of tumours of the gastrointestinal tract. There is therefore no consistent evidence that ingested asbestos is hazardous to health and thus it was concluded that there was no need to establish a health-based guideline value for asbestos in drinking water".

Asbestos cement pipes have been widely used for drinking water distribution and there are many kilometres to be found all over the world. Although few countries still install asbestos cement pipe, primarily because of issues with handling, there appears to be no concern for health of consumers receiving the water and no programmes to specifically replace asbestos cement pipe for this reason.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Saw them. on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 02:09 pm: Edit Post

I had a look at the pipes today and although they are dated, they are not asbestos. They are the old concrete pipes.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sentry on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 01:17 pm: Edit Post

Bowl is correct. Some years ago there was a replacement of pipes and all the older ones were asbestos. It's an open secret TBNet, and an old one at that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 06:49 pm: Edit Post

For what its worth, asbestos pipes are not a problem if they are intact. Its when they become friable (easily crumbled or reduced to powder) and allow the fibers to escape their encasement that problems can arise.

In the case of lung cancer, very small fibers are inhaled while breathing and can lodge deep in the lungs. As the study Carol mentions above indicates, the scientific consensus seems to be that asbestos in water is not a health issue.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Old timer on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 08:51 pm: Edit Post

In the late 1970's the pipes were replaced with what were supposedly asbestos pipes. It was much talked about back then but never looked into.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By beach girl on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 08:52 pm: Edit Post

what asbestos? you all hear the name asbestos and dont even understand what it is, make sure you all know before go scaring off people


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 10:24 am: Edit Post

TBNet, I thought that you would have already done your research on this. You state that you do not print rumors, yet here is a very serious statement that you printed before researching the facts. Your double standard is amazing


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 07:43 pm: Edit Post

Well Mr Bowl looks like you are suffering from 'asbestositis'!! Saw Them didnt see them so whats going on? Ah well,according to the report quoted by Carol we have nothing to fear. I guess Mr B created a storm in a... Bowl!! Were you trying to upstage the goat argument? LOL


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TBNet on Friday, June 17, 2011 - 10:32 am: Edit Post

To address SpookyDude's comment...
That there are pipes containing asbestos in the area is not a rumor. That asbestos fibers are getting into the water and causing illness is, albeit it one which has been discussed in the community for many years (as other's have alluded to).

We're two people moderating the posts here. One of us considered it an allowable topic of conversation, the other considered it a bit sensational and wanted to ask for proof to back up the statement. We'll leave it to you to guess which approved the original message and which posted the immediate follow up. :-)

Our edits are of course subjective, no matter how hard we try to be objective. Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we don't. We feel we're right much more than we're wrong. We appreciate that others probably (definitely?) disagree.

To close, we've posted this as a quick explanation of how we approach moderating this site, rather than an opening for debate on how we do things. We're asking that any further postings pertain to the thread's main topic. (This is our polite way of saying we're not going to discuss this issue any further here.)

-TBNet


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By beach girl on Friday, June 17, 2011 - 11:14 am: Edit Post

well said Spooky Dude


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ha on Friday, June 17, 2011 - 01:36 pm: Edit Post

Is Bowl now in hiding?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Friday, June 17, 2011 - 09:19 pm: Edit Post

TBNet..Whereas I found it a bit strange that this thread was published as the implications seemed quite serious, I did not post the comment attributed to me. I posted the second one addressed to Bowl.
I tend to be on the side where anything short of libel or vulgarity should be allowed, so I would not have made an issue of this. No harm was done and we all were enlightened.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spooky Dude on Friday, June 17, 2011 - 02:51 pm: Edit Post

"We are being fed with cancerous materials for some 30 years now."
[edited by TB.Net] If this goes on for 30 years what [edited by TB.net]makes any of you think that they will fix the canal? Oh that is right, we are waiting on a meeting in the future to avoid an demonstration...
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