I have one wish for the people that are from Treasure Beach that returns home to visit. When you go back there and meet the same people you left stop bragging on them for GOD's SAKE!!! we are living in a world of technology and the days for making believe is long gone. Just be yourself and be kind to each and everyone. The [edited by TB.Net] about thinking you better than people cause you went abroad is nonsense, some of us is worse but we can pay our air fare and put some spending money in our pocket/ some can't even do that. We need to love and respect each other we all are one.

I wonder if there is anybody in particular you are refering to? Must be for you to be making this comment. Now who is back in TB from foreign, mmmm I can think of at least two peps.

There is another side to this in that I have seen people come back to TB and certain people are all over them like a rash because they have come back with a lickle money, but then again usually that person is strutting about flashing the cash.

So I suppose there is two or three or four sides to everything.

Now shall I put my name or not that is the big question. Ah I think I will, not that anyone will know me unless I put my fella's name in front but he wouldnt like that! ha ha think I have gone a bit stir crazy!

I'm behind u 100%. And one of the things I hate, stop asking people if they know u, or remember u...It's one of the dummest thing to do..How can u leave home for 4-5 years and come back like u were born a foriegn.You see u own people den who u used to sit and eat and drink with, and cant remember dem name and face. when me com bak a yard, me com bad as yardie..nuff love

I've been away now for almost 26yrs and I've never ask anyone if they Know who I am or anything like that.So please don't think all are the same .

Who Cares? There are enough problems in the world that are more relevant. Focus on yourself and leave others to their own design.

I second that one,someone i went to school with,same class through out said she did not remember me.[edited by TB.Net] Mi deh a foreign now to.
But nuh weh no better than yard.

Alot of us have short term memory,so please dont bleam it on someone thinking there better-off than anyone,reality is some people look so diffrent over a period of years that its possible u forget them,not to mention names so easy to forget.im a young gal,and sometimes i dont even remember which day it is.what am trying to say is to blame it on the brain.

Lets be careful about our views regarding our people visiting.We may be pretensious or down home,where ever we are our experiences are unique we are all imposters in the game of life.It behoves us to be tolarent,kind and respectful of each other,we have all made fools of ourselves so lets remember that the tourist money is important to the economy;next time some one iritates you from their perch on a soap box do not become an emotional hostage instead try humour.LOL suggested by jenny reynolds nelson

We come like nomads wandering the world- we moved away to search for gold.We hunted for jobs,riches,education,another culture with shops,theaters,freeways and sky scrapers.We have long gone to another world,some returned to the cradle of their soul.otherscome to inhale the beauty,to bask on the sea shore and lift their eyes to the sun.We bring the links that bind us our children of foreign lands,to walk the sands,to hear the sounds and see the sighhts.We come to laugh,love,dance,sing ,mourn, pray to tell our stories to the land that cradles our souls.We share sorrow and joys to lighten loads.We remind our selves of our faith and our children of their ansestors.We come to encourage dreams.We come to the seat of our souls.jenny reynolds

I'm so glad I do not have to return to the land of my birth to live if I do not wish to do so but and this is a big but, there is one thing I would like to say, I have been away for over thirty years and during all my visits which were about six only because I do not like to fly and my parents would visit me in the past I cannot for the love of God see why some people would go home and act the way (From Yard) say they do.

This seems so stupid to me.We all played together, eat and drink from the same utensils, our parents were/ are friends and families to many, we attended the same Sandy Bank School,swap lunches and on and on I could go.

I know you all know what I am trying to get across here.

I went home and was as humble and nice to everyone that came across my path and made friends I now corresponds with here and there.
I have no time to act if as I'm better that any other. We are all the same.
Peace and Love.
God Bless us all.

Hey Cuz..didn't know you were a philosopher? Dont you think one reynolds hogging the show is enough?

Mex thanks for seeing things the way I do... I love my people from yard. I see so much need and wish I could help all. All those who making a better life a foreign and don't remember their loved ones may God bless you all. We came in this world with nothing and we will leave with nothing AMEN.

From Yard, that's extremely well said! Bob sang "The biggest man you ever did see was once just a baby, in this life."

Dust we all are, and unto dust we must all return. Wealth and poverty are both just an illusion. "We blossom and flourish like leaves on a tree, and wither and perish but naught changeth Thee". May the Lord gives us the wisdom to see that the heart of a man is everything, his bank account is nothing.

Thanks (from yard) for understanding what I'm trying to get across.
Please everyone, go home and act civil because the only thing you might have more than others is money and that does not make you "a better than me person".
I went home and gave the clothes off my back on the way from the beach and use my beach towel over my swimsuit as my cover-up so as not to walk the road half naked.
This is the Gods' truth and that is just one example of my generosity.

Peace and Love and more time.

This thread is so true ..Take it from someone who lives abroad ..no way nuh betta than yaad.
Why the show off? Sometimes when persons lift up their roots and come abroad - they are at times worst off than when they were back home. For one - no one is going to hand you anything - selfish world. You have to contend with the weather which is so cold at times that your own fingers don't even feel like your own.
I remember when I was back home that a 'dry land tourist' forgot me too and we used to play together as kids and live in the same area. They just passed and stared in my face without even a little nod - just in a show-off way forgot their manners.
Life abroad is more stressful than back home to me. The only difference is when you take your money back you get more for each dollar and can do more with it. God Help Us! Just be humble man. You have to creep nuff before you can move up abroad - sometimes you slide on your butt in the snow, nothing is free here. It's even getting rougher than times gone. Our own Jamaicans here are full of ' ' you know what. So what's the attitude for - all vanity Solomon said and he was the wisest man!

Stay humble people.

Is not only people from foreign show off, brag and boast. They just move to the city and get a job, they seems to forget who their families and friends are. They behave as if they are the only one that has a job, and they are the only one that is doing well so far. The neighours house they use to visit as a child, seems to no longer exist. Just full of themself.

I am glad other people saw things the way I do. Nuff respect people, remember the old people dem way use to give onu a dumpling to eat, drop by say hello and bring them a cold drink,it's only $70 Jamaican we nah carry nothing wid we. You have to forgive some people for their ignorance... move to Kingston and forget your friends name??? u no see say that a madness.

I have to agree with Brain problem above. I left TB not quite twelve years old for High school outside the area. After that I lived in Kingston, and have resided Sateside for almost thirty years.

Having lived my first 12 years in TB, I'm familiar with the old ways of former residents driving by and not even waving. To generalize however, like most people here are doing, is unfair in my opinion. I manage to go back home every now and then, and there's nothing I enjoy more than to see my old friends and relatives. Just thinking of having some roast fish with a cold Stripe is all I think of right now. But some of us have poor memory and the years may have taken its toll too. I'm often told of people that I know that I SHOULD remember, but I can't, no matter how hard I try. The name may sound familiar, but I'm unable to place the face; or vice versa. But never once in all the years have I ever been a "Pretender".

I believe the years when people think they are better than those left back home are numbered. With telephone, Skype, email, and instant messaging playing an increasing role, we are indeed living in a "shrinking" global village. We are no longer that far removed from each other. Consciousness and upfullness, awareness and respect of our brothers and sisters, and of the world around us, is what we really need. Blessings to everyone.

True words Observer, true words. I think it all has to do with lack of confidence and low self- esteem.

If one look at the pictures and messages that are posted, one can know who the frighten people are.

Nothing we bring in this world, and nothing we will take...Love when you can, give if you can. If we reach a forien, mek we member bak a yard.(I have never seen a Brinks van follow a Hearse)The word of God says" cast thy bread upon the water, and thou shall find it after many days" Me deh a farin and me always think bak a yard about all the old and young who I have known. Mek we just spread love all de way..Nuff respect..

Ladies, I am presuming you are all ladies,as this sounds like a ladies argument. Sometimes it is not that people dont want to acknowledge you, it is a matter of location. If you are not used to seeing someone in a particular environment, by the time you realise that you know the person its too late to say anything. The other thing is, we dont realise it because we see ourselves everyday, but we all change as we grow and some more than others. When you see someone staring you in the face and not seeing you just remember its like a mirror image, its the same thing on the other side! The other person maybe saying the same thing! Give yourselves more credit than you are now doing.

I agree with you Carlton, but some do it deliberately.

Mr. Reynolds, you are coming off like a male chauvinist to presume certain people are ladies because of their comments or the type of arguments or complaints they are putting forth. I would suggest you look in the mirror and examine your possible prejudices.

Ninja well said.A su it fi go yes.At the end of the day we are all one.One Love everytime.

Annoyed Woman, I did say, in a post elsewhere, that I am a chauvinist!! But not a chauvinist pig!! We all have our prejudices, but mine are are quite harmless. You do realise of course, that the discourse of the male of the specie tends to be different from that of the lovely ladies.I chose to say ladies rather than women, but the arguments were a little on the cass cass side,hence my assumption. Thanks for the reprimand.

Don't Forget that some people back home expect you to behave differently, they also think you have money, I've had people come up to me and said " from yu cum back yu don't even touch mi" or "from yu a cum back home yu neva bring something fi mi". I have to plan my visit home lika a military operation what to go with out so I can afford this holiday and bring gifts for friends and family. I do not paint a picture of a wonderful life in foreign and my family knows the true story of my life. Sometimes I have to do without in order to send a likkle money home.
And people have changed alot back home too it's not just foreigneers.
Some of what is said is true because I remember growing up in T/Beach and people go a Merica and cum back a twang after 2wks or a yr braging and boasting but leaving out the fact that life is hard a foreign and they might still owe for the flight home. I've been away for about 15yrs and I don't twang or have an accent because I chose not to, I work with people from all ova the world and they all speak english without the twang and I understand them perfectly. My english is very good so I don't need to add an accent to it.
I also think people back home have more to brag about more than us they are less stress.
We also tend to think that a likkle twang goes a long way in Jamaica news flash "IT DON'T" and not all people are the same "Neva see cum Saw"
KEEP IT REAL PEOPLE!!

Carlton as I am not a presumptuous woman I require clarification, there are two definitions of chauvinists which one are you?
1. Militant devotion to and glorification of one's country; fanatical patriotism.
2. Prejudiced belief in the superiority of one's own gender, group, or kind

Know something, people don't have to live or visit abroad not to recognize you. Take for instance, when Mr. Reynolds worked for the bank in Kingston, he looked fantastic in his lilly white shirt. Did he acknowledge me? Naw. And there is another female who from time to time writes or responds to various postings on TBN who lived in Kingston and did the same when she visited us at Sandy Bank School. SHE DIDNT EVEN SAY HELLO. Sorry Carlton to be beating up on you, love you still!!!

Cindy James are you my cousin? Well, I am neither of those, I am a macho, macho man! I believe that a man cant be a woman and vice versa...we play different roles, but as to the innate superiority of the male, that is all in my head! I make it a point of duty never to admit it to anyone except my female cousins!! Now here is where an alias may come in handy. Its a wise woman that is not bothered by such things,and therefore allows the man to feel he is superior!
Why did you not give me the third option? Ya don't think I am macho?

Hi Cartlon, are you planning to stay in TB?I would love to see you, my vacation time in TB end of march to the middle of April.

Jenny re returning visits I am reminded of some of the reasons myself and family visit the North Coast I have 3 children and 5 grands some days I FORGET all the names birth days its just hey you.Wa happen to out of one many?Money or none we treat people differently and yes sometimes we can are offensive.The best rule is to treat others the way way you would like to be treated.By the way the last time I was in TB I walked with my guest along the rocks to have a drink at the bar next to Jakes and got chased off the property like a common dog.Memories of behaviors cut both ways.So lets get along and learn from experiences.

Hey TB Native, you are the hardest person to contact. I have been leaving messages all over the place! [edited by TBNet] I even made up a quote on your favourite spot (21st century sage) and not a peep from you. I want to re-locate, but I have a few things to settle first. Email me,I am looking forward to seeing you, even though I have no idea who you are, but thats no problem since I know I had no enemies in good ole TB! Maybe I have a few cyber ones now, but I know you are not one of them! Did you see the post re Clinton? [edited by TBNet]

CUZ me the philisopher?LOL Iam the kid who who cried when anyone said boo or if I forgot the lines of a poem;had trouble with spelling and math.I have learned a lot.Today I am a woman who lives on life terms.I APRECIATE growth in myself and others. AN UGLY DUCKLIN CAN BECOME A SWAN.

Really now TBNET!! you really whimsical indeed. Are you trying to give the impression that I am saying things which should not be said? ....well I guess... I know if I don't like it I can.....!!!

Sometimes to be too friendly can have a negative effect. You walk along the road, and hail people that you have known from days gone by and find you have 'spent' a fortune from leaving Jakes and before you reach the beach at Frenchman. You haven't entered any premises. You haven't bought yourself any food or drink. You haven’t got a thing to show for your hard earned cash. Where has the money gone? Into the pockets of the various scroungers you made the mistake of hailing along your way, who are of the opinion that because you come from a foreign you are rich and as you have ‘plenty’ expect you to give to them. As HSH has highlighted, for people to come to TB for a holiday they have to save hard, go without etc. Life sure aint no bed of roses outside of TB/JA. It’s darn hard work and definitely has its stresses. Yes those stresses are different to those people are suffering in TB, but believe me they are just as bad. We also find we don’t have nuff money to go round, pay all the bills……. So when people come to TB for a holiday they want to be able to forget those stresses and not encounter further stress where everyone they meet sees them as their new local bank. The new local bank where they can get money out and never have to pay back.

Hi Jenny,
Are you saying you were ugly when you were a young girl?
I know your sister Millicent was the pretty one as they would all say, but you were not a swan I do agree with that.
Have not seen you for a very, very long time.
I can say this for just myself that I got better looking in my old age and people always but me 15 years younger that my real age.
I took good care of myself and my skin and I guess I inherited that also from both my parents.
Take care and all the best I know you are an OK person and do not think you are or were an (ugly duckling)

Thank you dear Meex I am still trying to figure you out.Millie was pretty,Madge was smart and I was a shrug of the shoulder.I grew with the fear of failure,only aunt Iris Clark believed in me;after living in the US having 3 children and a crumbling marraige I went to college earning a Bs in 1977 and a Ms 1980.I have recently retired from 32 years of full time state employment but teach teach 2 classes for Ms State Univ which I have been doing for 20 years.I write not to brag or boast but to EMPOWER.Only through the grace of GOD and our?aunt Iris did I become the confident swan.A child needs your encouragement TODAY.jens_joy

Hi Carlton, I did read what TBN said just let it go like water on a duck back.I know you are trying very hard to figure out who I am,you were like my big Bro I never had back then,I had to stay quite whenever you talk (smile) Nuff love & respect.Hint...Hint

It's ok even if you were to boast about your achievements Ms Reynolds. You did something commendable and earned that right. Congratulations to you!

Hi Carlton, you know who I am maybe you just forget,keep searching your memory boxes Carlton this is a bit of hint for you.The family is one of nature's masterpieces.Good night.

Hey TBN, I must be one of these pretenders,because racking the brain as hard as I can,
has yielded zilch. A squirt like me being a big brother! You have me baffled,intrigued even! I think my memory boxes may have become locked like those vault boxes in the bank: they need two people to open them. You have the other keys so you are going to have to work with me here! I believe you are of the opposite sex, [edited by TBNet]
be proud,remember what was said about pride?

Proud Mr Reynolds. Not boastful or conceited. Just simply proud of one's achievement.

Hi Carlton, who is cooking the turkey?have a wonderful thanks giving,

be proud..just pulling your legs!
TBN Its more like the ground dove, the turkey has flown the coop...and the turkey buzzards seem to have migrated! Boy the...shall we say, Editors, went to work on an innocent flight of fancy I had....and they left the lead in, or should I say take off, stranded!!
At one time I thought you and v.p.d. were one and the same, but having reflected on one of your posts,it couldn't be, as I think v.p.d. is from Gt.Bay, if am correct as to her identity.I know a V.P.,a B could have been added by marriage.
Have a wonderful thanks giving everyone!

Hi Carlton,to answer your question I am the opposite sex,sorry the turkey flown the coop... I am sure you will do something esle.I am not sure where v.p.d is from just so you know I live in Frenchman not far from where you guys used to live I am sure we will meet someday.

Carlton, read the question again: "who is cooking the turkey?" Didn't you get it?

Turkey Quest....no,I don't think I got it,but I know is not me! I know there is something there,but as dey say,"Jamaica turkey does fly high" and dat one flew right over my head! See if you get this:where did you get your surname? hey TBNet,that was a joke,get it? ha! ha!..loosen up guys!!
Hi TBNative, I am glad you confirmed my belief that you are a member of the fair and gentle sex, therefore I can let my flight of fancy soar; too bad TBnet will not allow me the pleasure of flying through their cyberspace!
Hi Jean, are you still out there? Did I scare you,eh Jean. My sister reminded me that I know a Jean,Jean J. My mind had gone in that direction, but somehow,it didn't connect, are you her?

Carlton, do you know why people call one another turkey? Read the question again. "who is cooking the turkey?" Dig?

THIS IS BECOMING SUCH A BORING TOPIC.
ON and ON with nothing of substance.

Hi Meex, since you find this topic so boring why dont you come up with a better idea,there is a little saying empty barrel makes the most noise.

Hi Carlton, I am planning to vist TB in April would love to see Cynthia,I take it she is still living in Kingston?.for my surname I get it from cyberspace,by way the Carlton curiosity kill the cat (SMILE)

meex, what is the topic to which you refer?Is it the turkey or is it about how we get better looking with age? or how people bad minded? Gobble,gobble,substance indeed...lead the way.

TB NATIVE I was actually referring to Mr Turkey Quest...get it? I still don't get the who's cooking the turkey bit, it must be a North American thing!
Yes she still does...when the time draws nearer,let me know and I will arrange a link-up..what happen,you don't want to see the I,I who am no cat...but I am still curious. Beg pardon...you did say you would love to see me..you will.

Hi Carlton, for some reason or the other I thought you were living in North America and it was your thanks giving week, sorry family about that still love & nuff respect I will surely link up with you in April God bless.

TB NATIVE... I have better and bigger things on my plate to occupy my time so I have decided to resign from this "BORING TOPIC"
HERE I REPEAT MYSELF....GOT IT!

What I have noticed also there are many that do not post on here anymore guess they are thinking what I'm thinking.
Good night, I have to catch the D train.