If visitors were to ask "what's the population of Treasure Beach" would anyone be able to give an approximate number? The assumption is that Treasure Beach is between the police station and Great Bay to Fort Charles, although it could cover a wider area.

When did Great Bay become Treasure Beach? It seems to me that giving all districts the "sexy" TB label is only a marketing strategy and is not historically accurate.

Round and round the mulberry bush...
Great Bay IS considered a part of Treasure Beach. Always has been. End of story. This has been re-hashed a million times on this site. Please let's not start it again.
5 Sections to T'beach - Great Bay, Calabash Bay, Frenchman's, Billy's Bay and Fort Charles.

Original,

I can't believe you actually made that comment. Haven't you been reading the posts on tbnet over the years? There has always been some discrepancy about Great Bay being included in the community of Treasure Beach and Rebecca has constantly tried to make amends to the statements made. One would think that all the coastal area in that community is known as Treasure Beach. I assume you would question Flagaman, Round Hill and Beacon being included as well? Please be cognizant of people's feeling towards this. It is really a very touchy topic.

Geez, here we go again...
I think, before this simple question was magnified and disected, all Canada was trying to find out is how many people live in the area. Also if you go to the 'Where to stay' section, the Treasure Beach area is considered Great Bay to Fort Charles. Some people just have nothing better to do than criticize everything. A while back someone was on here correcting peoples grammar and spelling. I say take up knitting or something...
Anyway, back to the question please, and let me step in and help out Canada who is probably rolling his/her eyes right now:
Anyone know of the general population in Treasure Beach, or the general area of TB?

"Please be cognizant of people's feeling..." Perhaps I am Great Bay 1. Has anyone ever asked the residents to find out if they prefer to use the name Great Bay, and for that matter, the people of Flagaman, Round Hill and Beacon? None of the last named districts have a "Beach". Why do we assume that the residents of these places feel the need to be referred to as Treasure Beach? {edited by TBNet}
Also, respectfully Y-not, if you're offended or tired of a contrary viewpoint, it's not necessary for you to respond.

there is one mail box {edited by TBNet}

One of the things I've noticed on this site is that whenever someone raises an unpopular point of view, most responses seem to get prickly and dismissive. There's no reason for that. Canada asked a sensible and legitimate question about Treasure Beach. In order to answer the question, it seems to me to first define Treasure Beach. I'm simply questioning a premise. No crime here in a democratic society I would imagine. Try asking people from Flagaman where they're from and see how many will say they are from Treasure Beach. Not everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon. Ask your grandparents in Great Bay or Fort Charles where they're from and see what they say.

I was born two hundred yards from the beach over fifty years ago. I grew up in the area and went to school there. I can remember a time when the two words "Treasure Beach" meant one place: the Hotel. Culture will always evolve, but History cannot be altered. Facts are not determined by how many times they have been discussed.

Perhaps Bob, this question cannot be answered because we have artificial boundaries that keep shifting with the politically correct and commercialized winds. I mean, Flagaman and Round Hill are Treasure Beach? Why don't we include Newcombe Valley, and Big Woods, and Little Park, and.......?

Origanal....sometimes it's best to let sleeping dogs lie.

A word to the wise is sufficient.

Can we please just have someone answer the question on this thread? I have an idea Original, let's let people answer the question any way they see applicable, as long as it has to do with the population, and they can make an estimate. Let's not continue on the boundary issue. Just start another thread for that! Now THAT is democratic!

When I was a little girl growing up in Treasure Beach I had to walk for miles to the Treasure Beach Post Office heading north of the Police Station.
I say Treasure Beach because I lived over looking the Treasure Beach Hotel and my family home is still there.

Well in saying this I can remember the residents of Flagaman, Cross Roads,Bacon, Lewis Town, Great Bay,Billy's Bay, Fort Charles all coming there to get their mails.

Believe it or not I had the pleasure of helping out at times with the assistance of my Aunt Bell in handing out the mail.
The Post Office was the front room of her house and I can remember also helping to keep the little platform in front of the window nice and clean.
Those were the good old days.

I will just say this once ..Treasure Beach is not just Sandy bank, Calabash Bay and Frenchman.

I will say the word Treasure Beach got the name because of the then famous Treasure Beach Hotel.

Let us all live as one in LOVE and HARMONY and join a Neighbourhood Watch to protect our surroundings.
Now is not the time to argue back and forth about where exactly Treasure Beach boundary starts and stop.

We are all one people.

THE TREASURE BEACH HOTEL & THE NAMING OF THE DISTRICT

As most "oldies" will verify, the name Treasure Beach was introduced to Frenchman's Bay by the hotel built there by a Canadian in the late 1920's... early 1930's.

Back in the day, when the Folichon was among the first of the villas along the beach strip, with Madame Melasse and Lola de Balaban, aristocratically lounging there in residence, the owner of the Treasure Beach Hotel was Dicker.
If Dicker had decided to change the name of his hotel to Dicker's Beach Hotel, would the chance contrivance, Treasure Beach, be now known today as Dicker Beach?...Nah!

Even the post office to the area, and therefore officialdom's choice, is the Calabash Bay P.A., which would have designated some mid-point location between Great Bay & Ft Charles.

We really need a local Archivist to keep all old lore alive!

I understand what you're saying Rohan. But I think we need to put things into context. Jamaica is a poor country. Also, years ago, the population in the area was much smaller. For those two reasons, it would not have been economical to have a Post Office in every little rural district. So, understandably, the P.O. was placed strategically at Pedro Plains to serve the surrounding areas. The fact that these areas all use(d) the same P.O. doesn't automatically translate to all districts having the same name.

Bap.

Not one response on the question.
Just another day in tbnet land..

Since there is no official documentation of which district make up Treasure Beach we should just make it personal ,wherever you lived in this area you can say you are from Treaure Beach if you choose to do so ,Wikipedia said its four coves which is( The Great Pedro Bay,Calabash Bay, Frenchman and Billys Bay)My opinion is each his own ,no ground for any argumentation about this .

Although the above responses have been very interesting and infomative, nobody has taken a guess at the population. I belive this would be good to know in the event of a disaster such as an earthquake where aid and supplies have to be sent to the area quickly. Other countries would like to know, as an example, how many tents, shipment of water, food, medical supplies to provide. Giving the population would be a good first start to overseas jamaicans and world wide agencies. The best way would be to check with the department of government that takes the census. But although I haven't been to Great Bay and Fort Charles for years, I would take a guess that from Great Bay to Fort Charles would be a maximum 200 people each for total of 1000. Taking into consideration the other areas mentioned from the other responses, I would guess that the Greater Treasure Beach Area (GTBA), a new term, would be about 3000 people. Agree?

OMG. Bap has the most intelligent comment of all here. Just kidding because I didn't understand it. Someone asks a simple question and this has turned into a ridiculous debate. I have wondered about the population number myself. Happy I never asked. How about someone estimating the number of people in Fort Charles, Billys Bay, Frenchman, Sandy Bank, Calabash Bay and Great Bay so Canada gets an answer. Then go off and have your fight elsewhere.

'Bap' indeed.

Treasure Beach is a place in the heart, populated by those who believe they reside there.

It's embarasing to know that it takes a foreigner to tell us what is or isn't Treasure Beach. HA HA HA. Original, did you attend Sandy Bank School{edited by TBNet}
TBN please do me a favor and don't edit this bit. Thanks.

Here is the definitive answer for the population of TB.
NOT MUCH !!!!!!!!!:>) :>) :>)
ONE LOVE !!
Mike

The best population figure may be voter enrollment plus a guestimate of children per registered voter. Since voters are recorded village by village, that ought to solve all the above hoorah.
In Connecticut, those numbers are kept by an elected official called the registrar of voters. I assume there's a counterpart in Black River.
PS Has anyone asked the parish Health Department? They must keep track of vaccinations etc.

Original say's it all,Treasure Beach Hotel was built in Frenchman, and while I am here let me clarify one thing, the original name of the P.O. was Pedro Plains and we all lived on the Pedro Plains.

It's full time for us all to stop this rubbish about where Treasure Beach begins and ends. If something good happened or someone became famous overnight in one of these areas that is not regarded as Treasure Beach, we will then see how quiclky it will be recognised as Treasure Beach an accepted by many. [edited by TB.Net]

What's the saying: 'small town, small town mentality?'

Yes Me. I went to Sandy Bank. I went to a few more schools after that; near and far. But this is not about me. It's so frustrating that whenever anyone dares to stick their neck out and questions the convention, there are so many ready to pull the trigger of derision and ridicule without offering a cojent rebuttal themselves. There are so many ready to make it personal. No wonder so few people dare use their real names here. Sad to say, I'm not surprised. I've seen it happen too many times on this web site.

To Zed and Frenchman born, thanks for making the point far more succinctly than I evidently have. I think, in the rush to pile on, your clarifications have sadly been conveniently ignored. It is far easier to accuse me of causing arguments, or having a fight according to Cap, than look at the merit or demerit of what I've written.

So no more "argumentation" Cow Pen, let's all just make it personal as you say. I'll be in Treasure Beach soon. I always enjoy staying there; such a nice Hotel.

MikeyMike, you said it, "not Much' amen!. Folks, all this bickering from time to time about our lovely community may cause others who have an interest to visit to become dis-interested if they read these thread.

Tourism has generate a lot of income in our comminity hence improving it a lot. So please let's not say things to give visitors a turn off.

Treasure Beach?! Pedro Plains?! Two names I Love. So nice when you are getting off the hill in South Field/Flagaman and looking down on us....the ocean, the plain fields....aaaaaah!

[edited by TB.Net] can anyone answer the question of approximate population of the four bay area known to many as t.b.a thats treasure beach area.

Meep.

Come on Bap, quit being so silly.

The SDC the Social Development Commission Jamaica has stated in a 2009 report titled' Overview of Treaure Beach' that the population of Greater Treasure Beach (beacons, billy's bay, blunters, calabash bay, fort charles, frechman, great bay, sandy bank, is 3,432
I would say the figures are more like 4000.

Yay, we got an answer!

Katie, thanks for the information which seems to be fairly reliable. Close to my guess of 3000. Now we all have an idea of the number of people.

Thanks Katie! Finally just the facts.

wow

census bureau would be the best place to get that info.

What census bureau? Please provide a link; I am not kidding.

check this site.

http://statinja.gov.jm/

a few journalist in their articles has referenced statin as their point of reference. so i think its valid.

also i remember everytime election was getting close, people always come around to each house to take up census. where is that info stored....... maybe the eoj, i dont know, but look into that as well.

Thank you, Mr. Wint. I have seen this site, but the best information I can find in here is the population for all of St. Elizabeth for 2008.

What does Flagaman mean, and why was the name chosen ?

D Rowe, this is on previous posts.