Hello, my friends and I have heard about wild ducks and other birds in the ponds around Treasure Beach. We plan a holiday every bird shooting season with our families.

We are prepared to donate needed items to the immediate community if we will be allowed to shoot birds that are on the list to be shot. We commend the other shooters who have contributed items to the needy in exchange for practicing our sport and we offer to do the same in Treasure Beach.

The group usually rents a couple of large villas and we spend at least a week.

Thank you, Rob M.

Hi!If this is the same Rob M,who is familiar with Janet and forth charlse,shooting around the area for years,I am trying to locate you with no success...........

I neglected to ask if shooting was legal in all the ponds during your bird season. Since shooting has been going on in the area for years as you said Corner, I assume it is legal.

We are not in Jamaica. We all follow local rules and laws wherever in the world we hunt.

I hope to be down before summer for a short stay and will tell the others how it is when I get back.

Thanks and hoping a trip can be arranged.

No that is someone else.

Thanks for responding Rob M.

Rob M, are you suggesting you want to shoot birds in LOCATIONS that are not 100% legal and if people allow you to break the law you will donate things to the needy in the community?

I disgust birdshooting with all my heart. There canīt be one single sensible reason for that...

Not at all, we only shoot in areas that are 100% legal and only shoot animals permitted in season and/or by license.

I read the post last year of a gentleman contributing goods and I assumed thus being allowed to shoot.

Please let us know if it is legal to shoot in the ponds and in the area that Corner was refering to. We would only consider coming to shoot if it was legal.

Thanks.

Not sure exactly where is or is not allowed.If I remember correctly,the season is usually around august/september for maybe 6weeks....could be less or more.This info.can be corrected if i'm wrong..However, my dad is friends with most of the bird shooters from manchester and kingston,he might be able to help you better.If you don't mind, post an e-mail address and I can have him contact you and steer you in the right direction.

Thanks Corner. We've been researching shooting in Jamaica since we came up with the idea of a trip and started communicating here.

Here are the rules: http://alturl.com/d3z2

Here is a report of the 2004 season:

http://www.nepa.gov.jm/publications/reports/biodiversity/2004BirdShootingReport. pdf

Ducks: http://alturl.com/tczf

We could not find a list of locations but it seems there are 122 locations where it is legal to shoot birds in Jamaica. Most birds are shot in St Elizabeth, your Parish.

We noted that because of deforestation, bird life is decreasing in Jamaica. We also noted from the many letters on the topic that there are many that oppose shooting in Jamaica.

We all support local conservation and environmental protection and note that illegal bird hunting is reported to be widespread in Jamaica and the population is generally unaware of the importance of environmental protection and the function of birdlife in an ecosystem.

In light of these, we will not be shooting in Jamaica and would encourage the government to have a moratorium on bird shooting. Unfortunately we hear that it is too easy for money/gifts to cause temporary blindness and deafness. Our offer of gifts was not a bribe but would have been a natural part of our trip. We consider gifting local communities apart from shooting.

We look forward to visiting Jamaica and all agree that Treasure Beach sounds like our location as long as the reported shooting is legal. If not, we will not and let it be know. Our small protest.

If illegal shooting is happening in Treasure Beach, we advise that at least within our network, if the word gets, out no one will visit your area. That's how strongly we feel about both legal shooting and the importance of conservation.

Thanks to the internet and our searcher.

Thank you, Rob M. You sound like an excellent person-exactly the kind of person who is always welcomed in Treasure Beach.

First of all to shoot in Jamaica you require a gun handlers permit and they are very very difficult to get and in your case probably almost impossible as you are a foreigner. Each person is only allowed to handle the gun to which the license is issued.
Second of all the land around the pond is privately owned and from what I know of the owners it would be highly unlikely you would be allowed to shoot there.
Quite frankly, it's bad enough we have Jamaican's shooting here, much less someone from overseas.
I grew up doing it as a child and into my teens but now I really think it's a shame.

Aren't the bird better off ALIVE?
This is a "sport?"
Why not shoot birds in your own neighborhood?

Thanks Clarification Needed. I hope we do the trip.

Treasure Beach sounds like the kind of place our lot have been looking for. Natural, quite and the people are cool with celebrities. That's what our music and film friends tell us.

Googling, we found out about the escaped white tailed deer that are becoming a pest in your mountains. Are bow hunting trips allowed? Are bow and arrows allowed in?

Thanks.

Then there is Exodus 20:13, Thou shall not kill.

As we are said to be a culture based on the King James version of the Old and New Testaments, the argument should end there.

Kill what though. Viruses? Carrots? Cockroaches? Teif and murderer?

The law has defined the conditions for bird shooting. I am for banning the practice. Britain did so with fox hunting. Historical precedent is no argument. Pickney kill nuff with dem slingshat and calaban anyway.

It's about food too, not just cameraderie and guns in the bush. Some love that gamey flesh without hormones and antibiotics. I've decided for myself but know it is up to each to do so for themselves.

My eldest is a healthy vegan lady. My other two are 'see food eaters', they eat whatever they see that they want to eat.

To abhore bird shooting and to eat birds is a contradiction. The life experience of battery fowls is a hell. A speeding pellet usually causes instant loss of feeling (consciousness?) then usually death. Legal or not.

I have seen fresh shotgun shell casings around various of our ponds.

So, where is it legal to shoot designated birds at the prescribed times in and around Treasure Beach?

Oh geez. Here we go again. Everything gets to be a controversy, so I may as well add mine...
I do not hunt even though it is very popular in Minnesota. But to each their own. But Brandy, the birds would definately tell you that they are better off alive if they could talk. As would the chicken you ate, or the cow....or even the asparagus I must say...

{edited TBnet}. If you examine this site you'll find lots of things to do and see and lots of places to go. Unless a change was recently made, I don't believe it lists hunting and shooting of birds, water fowl or deer.

Hi there Rob M. Deer in Jamaica? Have you been spoofing us, or did you confuse this Treasure Beach with another? I mean it's not april 1st yet.

The information is at these links.

http://www.jamaicachm.org.jm/Document/AI%20newsletter_October%202007.pdf

And.

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20090520/news/news10.html

They are fairly far away in the parish of Portland.

I wonder what else is there that you guys don't know about ?

What is cool and natural and quite about guns. |edited by TBNet}

Jeez Rob M. You really got me there. I stand corrected. Just goes to show how much has happened since I left Ja some 29 yrs ago. Happy hunting. I don't think the small farmers in Portland will be unhappy if you snag a deer or two.

The bottom line for me is that a well aimed bullet or arrow causes less distress and extended anxiety than the practices of the abattoir Enough. I only consume game. You?

Fascinating article about invasive species. I can see how the plant got here, but can't imagine how the white-tailed deer reach? A bit of a far swim, yes?

I remember hearing that they escaped from a zoo in Portland after a hurricane.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:8w_o9twtvNsJ:www.jamaicachm.org.jm/Article/ PDF/August2007.pdf+white+tailed+deer+jamaica&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Thanks for solving that mystery, Turey!