Old Wharf Beach

Treasure Beach Forum: TB Runnin's: Old Wharf Beach
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bowl on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 09:34 pm: Edit Post

0ld Wharf Beach is not disturbed by the construction
that is going on at the eastern end of the beach.
As a matter of fact I think it will be better off.
I don't kwow Mr Bicknel, but Mr. Bicknel bought a
piece of sea front land and want to protect his
land by building a levee, a storm surge wall or
whatever it is I don't have a problem with that.
What I will have a problem with is if I am being stopped from walking the beach or using the beach.
I went on the site and spoke with one of the engineers and saw the steel pegs that that were put in place by the surveyors. The wall is not at the pegs, they are further back inland. The reef has not been disturbed.
Mr Ralph James who owns land on the west of the beach was there and was very enthused by the
construction. He stated that in a short while he
will be doing the same thing with his beach front. I totally agree with the gentleman.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Turtle Girl on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 08:36 am: Edit Post

Mr. Bowl do you care about the sea turtles. I know turtles are less important than people but they are still important for Treasure Beach. My point is Mr. Bicknell could have taken the care not to disturb the turtle nesting places if he bothered to think about it. We should have the room for people AND sea turtles.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By STU WARD on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 01:17 pm: Edit Post

REBECCA PHOTOS PLEASE

The one image that we have seen on this site of Bruce Bicknell's beach house is the one that looked like a poster for Jamaica for Sale...a huge earth(sand)-mover looming over an Old Wharf dune, which many of us have witnessed changing shape from the flows of wind and sea, with Pedro Bluffs as backdrop and context.
It would be great to view a series of photographs along this beach-front that would visually explain the lengths and heights of the levee, the new villa's set-backs from the beach to yield some eco-intuition or modeling of how the shifting sands may affect the shoreline & neighbouring sea fronts.

It would also be good to sea how foot access to the swimming cove near Shakti Home has been affected or impeded.

As attempts to reshape Nature has shown, notably in the case of barrier islands, where sands are constantly & imprudently being dredged, at great cost, to maintain beaches and residential/commercial interests, take Man digging-digging-digging out of the equation and Nature's Currents inevitably return.

Engineering has created marvelous wonders, beyond pyramids and moon-shots, but have all the collateral consequences-impacts been considered?

Mr Bicknell, through his steel and construction entity (Tec Weld)
has built large commercial ventures in Jamaica, and one should assume to proven construction standards, let us hope/inquire that long term (generational) consequences were mapped out in the Design Programme for his beach house.

...a private matter?

Should we expect the response in these private/community relations to be something akin to:

Chill, bred! Mind your own bidnis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By poolguywindsor on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 09:08 pm: Edit Post

I was there last week staying at Taino Cove. I did not think that the wall looked bad it is certainly large for the way it was built. It can be hard to find the balance between progress and development and preserving what was there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By turey on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 04:04 am: Edit Post

Yes PGW, it is not simple to find a balance.

The will to find it must be there first or there can be no start to the finding.

Unfortunately, architects, engineers and builders are generally not taught the principles of sustainable development. The old assumption was that we have all the space and nature in the world, can't run out. Wrong.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Shocked on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 06:26 pm: Edit Post

Bowl I am surprised that you find this wall okay. Let me ask you this. How long has that sand dune been there and didn't need protection. Thousands and thousands and thousands of years. That's how long. Even Ivan did very little damage to that sand dune {edited}.
You worry about access to the beach? What beach? Do you mean the beach that was created by the wind blowing the sand off the sandy hill to make that beach that we all swim at? So now what? No sand to blow to make no beach. Not all beaches are created by wave action you know. Many are created by blowing sand and that is one of them. Again regarding your worry about access to the beach. How are you going to get to this beach? Do you know what the plans are for Olde Wharf. {edited} As for the public beach which was once our last remaining access is now fenced off. {edited} The only goats that fence keeps out is you and me.